Coronavirus - Covid 19


 
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Jeff Boudman said:
I worked in the OR of a large hospital for 34 years. The masks with ear loops are not allowed in the OR. They were only permitted for non sterile procedures.
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Are you saying the ear loop masks are worthless for protection from Covid-19? If the virus is contained in water droplets, wouldn't these masks trap that moisture and hold the virus in place?
 
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Bob Bass said:
What's also important is how they seal. A common occurance to see 3M 8210 masks being worn incorrectly.
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I remember being fitted for an N-95 mask one time at work, and men have to have a clean shaven face to make a proper seal. Each worker's mask was tested for proper fitment by inhaling irritant smoke. If you coughed, your mask was not fitted properly.

I also see a lot of users (from recent TV footage) not forming the metal piece over the bridge of the nose, and that is a big no-no. This has to be done with both hands, not one, according to instructions.
 
Rusty James said:
I remember being fitted for an N-95 mask one time at work, and men have to have a clean shaven face to make a proper seal. Each worker's mask was tested for proper fitment by inhaling irritant smoke. If you coughed, your mask was not fitted properly.
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Seems like everyone at work (3M, Industrial Mineral Products division, Corona CA plant... yup, Corona :) ) wore multiple hats. One of mine was as an instructor for the fit test. Remember those tests well. Previous tests used banana oil...

Rusty James said:
I also see a lot of users (from recent TV footage) not forming the metal piece over the bridge of the nose, and that is a big no-no. This has to be done with both hands, not one, according to instructions.
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You remember... Excellent !!!
 
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Rusty James said:
Are you saying the ear loop masks are worthless for protection from Covid-19? If the virus is contained in water droplets, wouldn't these masks trap that moisture and hold the virus in place?
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I’m not saying they’re worthless. They are not permitted in the OR because you have to touch the mask and your face to remove them.
 
Rusty James said:
Is it remotely possible that this virus (maybe a milder strain) has been with us all along, and we are just now finding it out due to improved / frequent testing? I have been sick for over a month now with a mild bronchitis-like ailment that I can't seem to get rid of. The rest of the family is fine though.

The pollen season started early this year, so maybe that is part of the problem.
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I had the flu back in December of course gave it my wife, and she had what you have much worse than mine and lasted well over a month and now she has her allergies pugging up her sinuses.
To different animals.
 
From multiple health pros. Wearing a mask will not stop the virus because of leakage along the different face lines of people wearing them. BUY what really does is stop the particles and moisture from a person's normal speech spray from lips etc from passing from one to another. So wearing almost any type of a mask will help in this matter. Also when not wearing your mask store it in a paper bag and avoid touching the inner surface.
 
Bob Bass said:
I'm so glad that Plowboys BBQ is teaming up with Operation BBQ Relief to provide 2,500 no-cost meals out to the local KC area.
Next time chose a mask wearer that more closely follows the mask manufacturer's instructions...
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So this is the new norm? We’re now trolling pics on Facebook to find things volunteers are doing wrong? Just wondering why as a society we need to add that one final comment. You all know the one. The one (usually) at the end where we turn what started as a feel good compliment into a tutorial on how someone is doing something wrong. Just a simple question for the ones critiquing those that are volunteering while they are not.

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Tim K said:
So this is the new norm? We’re now trolling pics on Facebook to find things volunteers are doing wrong? Just a simple question for the ones critiquing those that are volunteering while they are not.
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Wow, Tim, a lot of assumptions in this post about people you don't know. First, you don't know whether the kind of people you're criticizing are not volunteering. Maybe they volunteer more than you do, you have no way of knowing.

Second, I personally know Bob Bass. I know he and his wife do a lot of volunteer work. I know he and his wife are recurring supporters of Operation BBQ Relief, the subject of the Facebook post he shared (not trolled). I also know his comment about the poor face mask fit in the photo is related to his posts earlier in this thread with Rusty James where he discusses his work at 3M as an instructor in face mask fit. I'm sure that as an instructor, that photo made him cringe knowing how unprotected that volunteer is. Maybe Bob could have phrased his last sentence differently, but I don't think it was meant to be critical of volunteers or the man in the photo.
 
I see Wally World is implementing one way isles.
Great idea. My lady went shopping last nite and noticed a difference in how the store looked, and how everyone treated each other. Courteous, very friendly, while keeping a 6' distance.

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timothy said:
I see Wally World is implementing one way isles.
Great idea. My lady went shopping last nite and noticed a difference in how the store looked, and how everyone treated each other. Courteous, very friendly, while keeping a 6' distance.

Tim
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Barb who works as Safeway cashier said the same thing, people are starting to calm down a little. They have six foot lines on the floors leading to the checkouts and she said that most all of the people are cooperating and telling her thank you for being there to help them.
But of course you have a few village idiots that won't cooperate and get lippy. Those are promptly escorted out of the store and told not to come back.
 
Rich Dahl said:
Barb who works as Safeway cashier said the same thing, people are starting to calm down a little.
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Stores around here are gradually getting their meat stock back somewhat, although chicken has been harder to come by except at Sam's Club. Still no paper products to be had unless one gets there early in the morning. Ironically, the stores look somewhat barren of shoppers compared to normal days.

Once the shock & awe of the virus-induced pandemic wears off, things should get back to normal. I do like the cleaner looking stores however.
 
Brad Olson said:
I think this is a pretty good idea even without the need for social distance, especially when the store is busy. It'll be interesting to see the results of the experiment.
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I agree. When this is over, things that have changed might be the new norm.
I always gave folks distance when standing in line ( out of courtesy, before this started)
I hated when somebody got all over me standing in line.:mad:

Tim
 
Rich Dahl said:
Barb who works as Safeway cashier said the same thing, people are starting to calm down a little. They have six foot lines on the floors leading to the checkouts and she said that most all of the people are cooperating and telling her thank you for being there to help them.
But of course you have a few village idiots that won't cooperate and get lippy. Those are promptly escorted out of the store and told not to come back.
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And thank you Barb for being there!
Tim
 
I wonder if handshakes will survive this? Our stores are settling down a little. The health department is coming in and making sure the workers are correcting customers that aren't abiding by guidelines. People in our town our having trouble with it a little. Our governor just issued a stay at home but it seems like everyone is somehow essential. We are getting more service calls now than we did before the order. I'm doing my best and wearing a surgical mask for what it's worth. That's freaking some customers out, but I don't mind reminding them how serious this is. We are getting some calls where I know the customer is really old, at risk and has no business being open.
 
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