New Weber pellet grills for 2020


 
I've seen an up tick in older Weber's on CL in Phoenix, this is the prime grilling season in Phoenix. There should be a market for the older ones as not everyone can afford or want to spend a $1000 on a new grill.
I won't be a player in the market anymore, heck my new Camp Chef is still sitting in the box in my garage, won't have time to assemble it until after Christmas.
 
Rich Dahl said:
I've seen an up tick in older Weber's on CL in Phoenix, this is the prime grilling season in Phoenix. There should be a market for the older ones as not everyone can afford or want to spend a $1000 on a new grill.
I won't be a player in the market anymore, heck my new Camp Chef is still sitting in the box in my garage, won't have time to assemble it until after Christmas.
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I will be selling my Weber spirit. I haven’t seen an uptick here in NY yet though.
 
Tony-Chicago said:
Yep. Traeger may be trying to lock in a few more users before the Weber "tsunami"
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I’m guessing Traeger, RecTec Green Mountain, Camp Chef, and Louisiana/Pit Boss are all crying and panicking daily right now. Memphis, MAK, and Pitts and Spits are after a different market and are probably not as worried. If the Weber smokes as good as those, you’ll probably see a couple of them go under within a couple years. My bet is Traeger first, their customer service sucks and they are probably sitting on millions in inventory.

Especially if Weber really cuts into these guys’ pellet sales.
 
Yes. Sales and continuing revenue (pellets) A real hurt could be put on other manufacturers. The landscape could tilt further in Weber's direction.

Ps how many butts/briskets will the 24/36 hold.
 
Tony-Chicago said:
Yes. Sales and continuing revenue (pellets) A real hurt could be put on other manufacturers. The landscape could tilt further in Weber's direction.

Ps how many butts/briskets will the 24/36 hold.
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Yep, just like Gillette. Give the razor away and charge for the blades
 
I guess it depends on what kind of price controls Traeger has with Home Depot or if Traeger just wholesales the grills to them and after that it's Home Depot call as to price.
If the competition can lower their price and still make an acceptable profit that will put pressure on Weber to do the same to keep from being priced out of the market.
Time will tell.
Don't know if Weber still sells their own brand of charcoal but they sure don't around here and haven't for a long time. It was too expensive and I believe the average griller is looking at price more than anything. Most of the folks on here have a broader knowledge of things like quality and parts availability and aren't focused on price alone.
 
Well, if the weber grills actually do work "best" with weber pellets, then I can see that. However, Weber is going to have be careful how much of a premium thay charge for their branded pellets. If they get too high it will only serve to PO a lot of owners and give them a reason to give negative reviews.

I would assume someone buying a $1000 grill is planning on using it quite a bit. Having to pay 50% more than other reputable brands for pellets won't sit well.
 
Tony-Chicago said:
Yes. Sales and continuing revenue (pellets) A real hurt could be put on other manufacturers. The landscape could tilt further in Weber's direction.

Ps how many butts/briskets will the 24/36 hold.
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I can give you estimates from the similar sized Traegers. On the 22 in Traeger, I cooked 4 - 9ish lb butts using GMG's second shelf (a freestanding second shelf with 4 legs - about 10x20 by 6 inches high maybe). I washed the shelf super good as it was touching the bottom two butts. It took a few extra hours to cook since the airflow was reduced with everything packed in that tight. My guess on briskets (since I've never cooked more than one at a time) would be 2 if the Weber upper shelf can support it.

On the 36 inch Traeger, I cooked 2 pork butts, 6 full bone in split chicken breasts and a full rack of baby racks all on just the main grate leaving space around the outer edge and between items. You could easily do four on the Traeger just using the main grate and 8 if you shelved, probably even 10 if you went 3x3 on the main grate (you just had to be careful about overhanging the drip tray. I'm guessing with Weber's design not having the drip tray, you could do more easily do 6-8 on the main grate and pretty easily 10 butts using the second shelf. Based on that my guess would be 3-4 packers using both shelves.
 
Rich Dahl said:
Don't know if Weber still sells their own brand of charcoal but they sure don't around here and haven't for a long time. It was too expensive and I believe the average griller is looking at price more than anything. Most of the folks on here have a broader knowledge of things like quality and parts availability and aren't focused on price alone.
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I've seen Weber charcoal around here at Ace stores, but have not been able to stomach the $20 for 20lbs they charge despite only hearing great things about it. I can buy Fogo for that rate. As far as pellets, I've tried the cheaper ones and I pretty much only buy CookinPellets now, they burn cleaner and seem to me to give more smoke flavor. I'll give the Weber's a shot, especially their blend as it's all flavor woods instead of Oak filler.
 
Maybe this has already been mentioned, but Weber has been answering lots of questions on the Amazon product pages. They did note that the SmokeFire will support their iGrill probes.
 
ShaneF said:
I’m guessing Traeger, RecTec Green Mountain, Camp Chef, and Louisiana/Pit Boss are all crying and panicking daily right now. Memphis, MAK, and Pitts and Spits are after a different market and are probably not as worried. If the Weber smokes as good as those, you’ll probably see a couple of them go under within a couple years. My bet is Traeger first, their customer service sucks and they are probably sitting on millions in inventory.

Especially if Weber really cuts into these guys’ pellet sales.
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I do think that where other manufacturers have an advantage is they offer sub $1000 units. The $500 - $700 range is pretty large. I would guess that range is the biggest segment. I do think that $1000+ can be dominated by Weber for sure. I could see them coming out with a $600 model in a few years to appeal to more of the masses or maybe they feel like that would cut into sales of their other products.
 
I personally hope that Weber stays away from the low end of pellet grills. Going there means some real compromises and forget even “assembling” them in the USA. I think they are very fairly priced (even if not in my budget anytime soon). I feel Weber learned from the Summit charcoal that even an excellent product won’t sell well if way overpriced. With the SmokeFire they are very competitive yet offer definite advances over similarly priced alternatives.

These grills are more technically complicated and bring a new (but not really worse than gas grills ) set of risks if not used properly. Making a cheap model overseas would increase that risk.
 
I agree Jon, but a lot of us my self included don't need or want some of the features of the SmokeFire. I have no desire for the remote wi-fi or Bluetooth monitoring (from he who still has a flip phone) my mavericks do just fine. As long as the grill is reasonably temperature stable that's my goal.

Even though my camp chef can reach 600* I will probably never use it as I have other grills for that. I bought this grill based on the features that appeal to me. A sight glass for the pellet box so you can easily see how much is in the pellet box. A pellet box dump so you can easily change pellets. An ash container which makes clean up much easier and a fold down front shelf.

If Weber made a version without the high heat feature and the remote monitoring for around. $500-600 there would be Weber in my back yard instead of a camp chef.

But I do understand Weber's rational, the new generation of grill buyers are tech smart and the features like the SmokeFire has appeals to them.
 
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Chris Allingham said:
EX6 36": https://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B07XV27MMN/tvwb-20
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The EX6 does interest me, but I'm sad to say, quality at Weber has taken a huge hit (imho)

There will never be a replacement for my 22" kettle nor my 22" WSM, those will always be my favorite grills. I though that the Summit Charcoal grill might steal the thunder from the my kettle, but it did not

I'm just waiting for my son to finish college and then I'm outta kalifornia, I've really come to hate this state. I see my forthcoming digs in Tennessee, I hope to find a lake front home on a couple acres, where I plan to build (have built) an outdoor kitchen, entertainment center. As I draw up plans for such, the built in Memphis Pro 430 seems to be along the lines I will likely go, but it will be mostly used when guests are present, for no other reason that atmosphere. There's nothing like a BBQ doing it's thing for atmosphere. But my heartfelt cooks will always be in either my Kettle or my WSM.

I have a pretty short list of what I'm taking with me when I leave kalifornia, the kettle and wsm are on the shortlist
 
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