Napoleon vs Weber
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Michael Iron
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Crazy world that live in now that they even have to pass laws like that. Slow them down for a bit is about all can hope for. When gas grills are outlawed then only outlaws will own gas grills
Don't get me wrong, I even have an Earth First bumper sticker on my truck
Brett-EDH
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Circular firing squad. What a genius invention.
Ralph
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Yes, I don't remember the effective date, but I'm sure the MA code goes back a ways.
This all started when a new tenant (renter) asked about using a charcoal grill on their second-story balcony (no external stairs to ground). this didn't sound like a good idea at all, and sent us down the rabbit hole of fire codes. Some insurance regulations stipulate that grilling must be at least 25 feet from building, but we haven't found that to be our case...yet.
In-laws' patio is about eight inches above grade- I just use a six foot sheet of plywood to roll it onto the grass, then move it off to the side. Still trying to figure an easy way to attach larger casters, but it's not going to be an easy swap.
Richard Garcia
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That Rotisserie Kit spinning on your Weber Charcoal Grill is one from "Cajun Bandit"?Those working surprising well. The Admiral (2 star upper half) bought a house in SD that 4 of us retired Navy hunt pheasant out of in November. Someone picked up a Ronco at a yard sale for $25 and the prime rib turned out better than I thought it would with it. We even let a couple of retired AF pilots play with us. We don't rough it too bad in SD, might even say it is civilized.
I don't mind taking the grates out when spinning meat on a stick on the gasser
You can see the smoke box to the left but it leaves a lot to be desired. I think Napoleon is onto something with their charcoal smoke tray and wish Weber would come up with something similar. It may even work on a Weber with grates removed and might get one to try with wood chunks and charcoal
If I'm spinning a bird or 2 prefer the kettle by far
But even more so prefer the WSM with roti. The dripping juices on the hot coals take it to another level
4 hours later
Ralph
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An older E-210 (full cabinet).
I started a thread a few weeks ago asking if anyone knew what the hole pattern was for the casters (I'm going to have to tip the grill over to mount new ones). After thinking about it, I figured 4" casters would roll OK on the grass, but large casters means large mounting hole patterns.
Plus the mounting holes on the grill are on a "sub plate" spot welded to the underside of the base- I had an E-310 where rusty spot welds just collapsed through the base.
I'm thinking of either making an adapter plate or buying spindle mount casters with one big hole for each corner.
Not sure what way I'm going to go yet.
Michael Iron
TVWBB Member
No it is the Weber Rotisserie kit. Bought it in 2011 for $139.
Gone up a bit in price since then, now they are $235
I do have the Cajun Bandit stacker and rotisserie for the WSM
Both have quite a bit of use and still working fine yet
Jay D in Jersey
TVWBB Wizard
Evidently wood and charcoal are in the crosshairs now:yet you're wrong. many cities have and are banning small gas engines. lawnmowers, leaf blowers, edge trimmers.
you can live under the rock. that doesn't bother me.
the trend is against fossil fuels. renewables are where its at, hate it or like it.
these are education links. not political banter.
17 states weigh adopting California's electric car mandate
Seventeen states with vehicle emission standards tied to rules established in California face weighty decisions on whether to follow that state's plan to ban sales of new fuel-powered cars by 2035.www.cbsnews.com
California to ban sale of gas leaf blowers, lawn mowers in small engine ban
California, Vermont, and Washington D.C. have implemented bans or limits on small gas engines. Starting next year, California will no longer allow the sale of new small gas engines.www.turnto23.com
U.S. Regulators And State Lawmakers Consider Banning Gas Stoves—Here’s Why
One federal official called natural gas appliances a “hidden hazard” due to health concerns and environmental impacts.www.forbes.com
and before you come back with a terse comment. save your time. i'd prefer you block me from seeing my posts.
Fuggedaboutit: New York City Considers Pizza Oven Ban
Proposed environmental regulations in New York could end the use of wood and coal fired ovens in many of the city's historic pizza restaurants.
freebeacon.com
JSaus
TVWBB All-Star
Just remember the poem "Then they came for me". Stand up for your grills.Evidently wood and charcoal are in the crosshairs now:
Fuggedaboutit: New York City Considers Pizza Oven Ban
Proposed environmental regulations in New York could end the use of wood and coal fired ovens in many of the city's historic pizza restaurants.
LMichaels
TVWBB 1-Star Olympian
Wish it was true. But as of late, not so much
John_NJ
TVWBB Wizard
So what for instance?
Serious question.
As long as it doesn’t violate the rules of course.
And yeah, things change. It’s part of life.
Rich Dahl
TVWBB 1-Star Olympian
Went into Ace Hardware to pick up a cooking grate I ordered for a 22 kettle I'm selling. While I was waiting, I saw a large display of Napoleon grills. Mostly thier 425 and 365 series. They seemed to be built pretty well, but not a fan of the curvy grates.
The 10 year bumper to bumper warranty was a big plus.
What I found strange is not one Weber to be found, not a good sign.
Ace is close to us vs. True Value and Ace used to carry a lot of Weber accessories like grates and such. Now you have to order what you want. Same with Wal Mart and Home Dumpo no Weber Parts in stock or very few.
The 10 year bumper to bumper warranty was a big plus.
What I found strange is not one Weber to be found, not a good sign.
Ace is close to us vs. True Value and Ace used to carry a lot of Weber accessories like grates and such. Now you have to order what you want. Same with Wal Mart and Home Dumpo no Weber Parts in stock or very few.
Bruce
TVWBB 2-Star Olympian
Yah, but I think that is an issue with all grills. Aside from a few parts on relatively newer models, it just doesn't pay to stock the parts. The demand is too low. I think many, if not most grill buyers look at grills like they do ovens. Once you start needing to replace stuff, it is time to move on. That sounds like heresy on a forum like this, but most of us live in a different world. Just think of the average joe that realizes he needs new burners. You basically have to dismantle a grill to swap them out. Just like changing brakes on a car, that just won't happen with most owners. By the time the burners go out, likely they are using a match or grill lighter to start their grill, the flavorizer bars are caving in, the bottom of the grill is so full of gunk that you have long forgotten that you even have a drip tray on the grill and the cooking grates look more like aluminum GRILL GRATES due to being so gunked up. "Honey, I think it is time for a new grill, lets go to Home Depot this afternoon".
Believe me, I pick up a couple dozen old Webers each summer to rehab. Most of them definitely have life in them with just a simple cleaning and replacement of the internals, but people just are not into that or don't think it is possible.
Another thing is, buying genuine weber parts gets to a point that it doesn't make a lot of sense to fix up the old Genesis. Most grill owners just go with weber brand parts because they don't even know there are aftermarket sources or want to research which will fit his grill. It can cost well over $200 burners, economy enameled flavorizer bars and economy enameled steel grates at an ACE or Home Depot. So, people just move from the parts shelves to the new grills being displayed right behind them.
Believe me, I pick up a couple dozen old Webers each summer to rehab. Most of them definitely have life in them with just a simple cleaning and replacement of the internals, but people just are not into that or don't think it is possible.
Another thing is, buying genuine weber parts gets to a point that it doesn't make a lot of sense to fix up the old Genesis. Most grill owners just go with weber brand parts because they don't even know there are aftermarket sources or want to research which will fit his grill. It can cost well over $200 burners, economy enameled flavorizer bars and economy enameled steel grates at an ACE or Home Depot. So, people just move from the parts shelves to the new grills being displayed right behind them.
Rich Dahl
TVWBB 1-Star Olympian
I think you're spot on Bruce. In our throw away society it's much easier to replace than to fix something, espically when it's a hassle to even get the parts.