BroilMaster P3 Restore


 
Jay, I am glad it all worked out for you. That will be a really nice add to your Broilmaster. I have a bunch of Broilmaster grill parts but never any time. I hope I can get one or two put together this summer.
 
Jon Tofte said:
Jay, I am glad it all worked out for you. That will be a really nice add to your Broilmaster. I have a bunch of Broilmaster grill parts but never any time. I hope I can get one or two put together this summer.
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The NG orifice shipped and it's supposed to arrive Tuesday! We've had a very mild winter here thus far with the exception of a cold snap before Christmas...so this project may happen sooner than planned. The Broilmaster is on our second floor deck at the beach...there's no garage or indoor space to work on it. So weather is key.
 
There are only 2 bolts holding the shelf to the fire box. Since the shelves are used to move the grill and I saw one that had ripped holes through the firebox I reinforced mine with some C-Channel I cut up to use as large washers.
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That’s a very wise addition, Joe. It’s the kind of thing the design engineers should have thought about in the first place!

That’s also one place where Weber’s original Genesis design was a big leg up on Broilmaster and similarly designed grills. Starting with a solid frame cart was a big improvement over just setting the firebox on a pole or an underneath cart with no framework.
 
Joe Anshien said:
There are only 2 bolts holding the shelf to the fire box. Since the shelves are used to move the grill and I saw one that had ripped holes through the firebox I reinforced mine with some C-Channel I cut up to use as large washers.
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Good idea. I have some slotted angle sitting around...think it's a bit thinner than that c-channel you have but would definitely improve things. Although, I don't move mine and it's actually hard fastened to the deck rail with a piece of galvanized floor bridging because of the wind.
 
So the NG valve came way earlier than expected(is USPS recovering?).
Took a trip to the beach house after lunch.
I removed the SS shelf and slid the new side burner into place and secured it with the tab and wingnut underneath. 43 degrees and 30 mph offshore wind...the gas connections will wait for a warmer day. It fits perfectly. I even was able to replace the OEM hook bar. I'll add the SS utensil hooks I installed when it's warmer and I have a new bit to get through the 304 on the burners edge. Some pics albeit out of sequence a bit.
 

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LMichaels said:
Yes Broilmaster even sells the conversion kits
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I mean for the side burner, not the main grill burners. I only changed the single orifice from LP to NG. My question is related to the valve for the side burner.
In other words are the LP and NG valves the same but orifice sizes different?
 
Jay D in Jersey said:
I mean for the side burner, not the main grill burners. I only changed the single orifice from LP to NG. My question is related to the valve for the side burner.
In other words are the LP and NG valves the same but orifice sizes different?
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Yes. Actually funny thing even on Weber it's like that for side burners
 
Jay D in Jersey said:
So if you see fit, school me please, Sir. Are LP and NG gas valves the same for burner manifolds too and the only difference being the flow of either gas through the orifice?
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That answer is a little more sketchy as "it depends". If you're asking about the Weber grills. Answer is a definite maybe. Because unlike other mfgrs Weber did not ever see fit to being able to "convert" easily. Many (if not most) of their valves had quite different flow characteristics between NG and LP. You could modify an LP valve to work on LP but never the other way.
 
LMichaels said:
That answer is a little more sketchy as "it depends". If you're asking about the Weber grills. Answer is a definite maybe. Because unlike other mfgrs Weber did not ever see fit to being able to "convert" easily. Many (if not most) of their valves had quite different flow characteristics between NG and LP. You could modify an LP valve to work on LP but never the other way.
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I get it. The reason many others just provided or made readily available, the appropriate orifices and the valves were standardized. The reason I asked was because this Broilmaster side burner had two separate part #s on the box with check boxes for the NG model and LP model. Made me wonder why they just didn't sell it as a single model and include both orifices...but the risk manager in me realized the liability exposure and potential for confusion(and stupidity).
Also, the required labels for NG vs LP products would have to be included.
I took a Sharpie and crossed out the LP on the label...risk mitigated!!🙃
 
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