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2nd Chance for a True Weber Classic: A 1998 1st Generation Summit 450


 
Jon, the ones with the welded in piece don't cover the XOver burners on an old style one. They're all the way in back on the 1st gen Summit and out of harms way. And the fire boxes are different size as well.
 
I was trying to say that Weber went to the welded ones in the second generation. Although in the back, they are still exposed in the first generation Summit. I am guessing that some people did have premature failures because of steaks, etc. being cooked all the way in the back. I haven’t had that problem yet, but as I said before, replacing crossovers on a 1st gen is a lot cheaper than when those welded flavorizers fail on a 2nd gen.
 
It's kind of interesting you mention people cooking on the back of the grill because for some reason, whenever I grill, I have a habit of always putting my food towards the back of the grill for some reason. Just habit as I really cannot think of a logical reason for developing this tendency.
 
I always turned the crossover burners to point towards the front of grill to avoid a direct hit with food and haven’t really had any issues

Anyways, the rear smoker diffuser on Vieluxe looks like it might be directly over the crossovers so I asked Dave to give me a price for bars with and without the crossover shields

It’s being delivered this weekend and I can measure up everything
 
Jon Tofte said:
UPDATE:

I picked up my order of stainless shields for my 1st generation Summit today. I had enough made to do several grills, and the shop saved the file so they can make even more.

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These are very nice and certainly thick and heavy enough stainless. They are thick enough gauge that I am rethinking and May just go with inside pieces only.

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The shop did a great job of making them match up with the actual front piece:

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Our own Moderator, Chris, who also owns a 4-burner 1st generation Summit is in for this order. If others are interested at $25 for the front piece and $10 for the back piece, plus actual shipping, please PM me.

If you own a 2nd or 3rd generation Summit and would like to pursue this for your grills, let me know. The shop technician said that it was much better that I lent him the original front rather than relying on a cardboard cutout. That could make things interesting. Still, shields like this could give a whole new life to a Summit Platinum which has so much going for it other than this porcelain plated firebox front.
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Hi
I have a summit s-470 2008 what generation is this grill.
 
Welcome Bill!

The shields I had made were for a 1998 1st generation Summit. If you are ambitious - and maybe lucky - you could disassemble and take your firebox panels to some sheet metal places near you to see if they could make similar shields for yours. To get the price down, you could do what I did and make a small run of them and offer up the extras for sale here and even on eBay, etc. You are for sure not the only one fighting this issue.

It would be great if we had stainless shields available for generations 1,2 and 3.
 
Hello all! Found this in my search for repairs on my 1998 summit gas 450. The stainless plates are exactly how I pictured it in my mind. Am I too late or are there someone willing to sell me two front and back stainless plates. Any help would greatly be appreciated! Thanks!
 
UPDATE:

After selling out all of my original run of 1st generation Summit stainless reinforcement plates, I was fortunate to be able to get the shop that made them a couple years ago make me a new run. So, they are available again. Slightly higher price:

Piece with cut-out holes for burners and igniter (front). Each piece covers two burners, so you need two for a 4-burner and three for a 6-burner model. $28.00

"Plain" piece for the back. These are the same size, so you need the same number as above, depending on your model. While this may not seem as important, when I looked close at my Summit, I found the beginnings of rust/burn-through on the back panel, just not as far along as on the front. $12.00

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NOTE: I have been using these on my "daily driver" Summit for over two years, and applied with food grade red RTV, I have had no issues so far. It's great to keep this very cool Weber - maybe the best Weber ever put their name on - still cooking over 25 years after it was made!

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Jon Tofte said:
UPDATE:

After selling out all of my original run of 1st generation Summit stainless reinforcement plates, I was fortunate to be able to get the shop that made them a couple years ago make me a new run. So, they are available again. Slightly higher price:

Piece with cut-out holes for burners and igniter (front). Each piece covers two burners, so you need two for a 4-burner and three for a 6-burner model. $28.00

"Plain" piece for the back. These are the same size, so you need the same number as above, depending on your model. While this may not seem as important, when I looked close at my Summit, I found the beginnings of rust/burn-through on the back panel, just not as far along as on the front. $12.00

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NOTE: I have been using these on my "daily driver" Summit for over two years, and applied with food grade red RTV, I have had no issues so far. It's great to keep this very cool Weber - maybe the best Weber ever put their name on - still cooking over 25 years after it was made!

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Great news!

So if I ever get around to using my panels and reassembling mine…can you help me with the order of operations for “how to reassemble everything” 😅
 
Found this Summit Platinum in the trade in heap at the local Ace…
Any parts that could be useful for our OG Summits? Knobs?
Or can frame be repurposed to save Genesis 2000?
 

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R Chin said:
Found this Summit Platinum in the trade in heap at the local Ace…
Any parts that could be useful for our OG Summits? Knobs?
Or can frame be repurposed to save Genesis 2000?
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Summit Platinum parts are certainly worth something. For sure the knobs, trays... Is this one NG or Propane? If it is propane, I would love to get the manifold from it to do a conversion on a NG one. There isn't much that I think would carryback to a 1st generation Summit. You might be able to use some of the stainless cabinet parts on a Genesis, but I think you are looking at significant fabrication work to do that. I think the tray tables will work on Genesis Silver/Gold grills.
 
Jon Tofte said:
I will be happy to do my best. Having an assembled one (which did take some effort and referencing the similar one owned by @Chris Allingham) will make that easier!
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I'm considering some refurbishment of my Summit 450 later this year. I will be going back and reviewing the details of Jon's restoration and getting inspiration and direction from it. :)
 
Chris Allingham said:
I'm considering some refurbishment of my Summit 450 later this year. I will be going back and reviewing the details of Jon's restoration and getting inspiration and direction from it. :)
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Chris, buy yourself a new Summit. I'm sure you deserve it after all these years. One of the big reasons why I don't buy a new Weber is because I don't want to get used to cooking on the north/south burner configuration. In your case that's not a problem and with the aluminum cook box along with how well you take care of your grill it should last a long time.
 
Jon Tofte said:
Summit Platinum parts are certainly worth something. For sure the knobs, trays... Is this one NG or Propane? If it is propane, I would love to get the manifold from it to do a conversion on a NG one. There isn't much that I think would carryback to a 1st generation Summit. You might be able to use some of the stainless cabinet parts on a Genesis, but I think you are looking at significant fabrication work to do that. I think the tray tables will work on Genesis Silver/Gold grills.
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I’ll swing by tomorrow and take a look - I think the thermometer and bezel might work for my Vieluxe

What do you mean by Trays? Grease tray?

You want manifold if LP?
 
R Chin said:
I’ll swing by tomorrow and take a look - I think the thermometer and bezel might work for my Vieluxe

What do you mean by Trays? Grease tray?

You want manifold if LP?
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I am sorry; I meant the tray tables. I think the thermometer and bezel might work. If not, they are still worth salvaging for something else. Tables and knobs as well!

Yes, I am very interested in the manifold if is LP.
 
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