2nd Chance for a True Weber Classic: A 1998 1st Generation Summit 450


 

Bruce

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Hey Mike. Hello, nice to see you check in on the forum. I hope all is going good with you.
 

Joe Anshien

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Nice job Bruce - Meticulous as always! I may have missed it but were you able to source metal shop for your SS sandwich?
 

Bruce

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Joe, you mean "Jon", not me. He is the Summit reserrector. But, I do believe he sourced a shop to make his SS panels.
 

Jon Tofte

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Nice job Bruce - Meticulous as always! I may have missed it but were you able to source metal shop for your SS sandwich?
Joe,
If you go back a few pages, there is an explanation of how I finally found a shop that was interested and willing to make the stainless parts for me. Without those, restoring this grill - or any 1st generation Summit with even the beginnings of fire box rust - would be ultimately useless. It’s one reason this project has languished for so long.

Here is a quick picture of what I was able to have fabricated:

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Joe Anshien

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Joe,
If you go back a few pages, there is an explanation of how I finally found a shop that was interested and willing to make the stainless parts for me. Without those, restoring this grill - or any 1st generation Summit with even the beginnings of fire box rust - would be ultimately useless. It’s one reason this project has languished for so long.

Here is a quick picture of what I was able to have fabricated:

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Thanks, I found it at the bottom of page 3. I don't know how I missed it. That is some thick hunk of SS! I would think just 1 of those on the inside would last a life time of grilling! The price was also amazing.
 

Jon Tofte

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Yes, I found the perfect shop that took a real interest in helping me and doing it right. They had that stainless leftover in stock, so I got a good deal. They were also very fair on the labor. Someday, I am going to try them on some other grill part fabrication projects.

Stainless cabinetry for several models such as the Genesis Platinum would be really cool!:coolkettle:
 

Jon Tofte

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A LITTLE HERE, A LITTLE THERE...

I work fifteen minutes here and 20 minutes there on this 1st generation Summit dream, as I am able. It is at least starting to look like something:

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I am assembling in my home office, which is a glassed-in, air-conditioned Florida(?) room. The clean parts are fine in here, and this is the best I can do to provide a place for the paint to continue to fully cure.

I have installed all the 304 stainless cabinet parts. The back and left rest directly on the frame, and the large, heavy back piece has curves on top and bottom to loop around the two round frame tubes. No bolts used at all! Installing required loosening the bottom frame tube and then reinstalling it.

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To protect from metal against metal scratching, the original design included some kind of rubber strips. Most of these were no longer useable, so I am using nomex felt, since some of the locations will be high heat.

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I have been replacing the hardware with stainless in almost all locations:

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The original scale had seen a lot of use over the last 24 years, including time just sitting outside unused. It was time for a refresh using one of my own decals based on the graphics work of a member Joel Young who I don't believe is active right now. I have seen a couple extraordinary restores of these scales on our board here. So impressive for someone to completely disassemble, carefully sand and perfectly repaint. I admit I wasn't up for that and settle for cleaning, lubricating and repainting.

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Notice the wheels above. This Summit used the same tank slider mechanism that the earlier Genesis 1-5 and x000 grills used. It gets cleverly hidden behind the stainless panel. Weber ditched this design in favor of simpler (cheaper) rubber bumpers. I still think these wheels were the classy way to ensure free movement. Unfortunately, they were also a rust magnet, so everything has two sides. I was able to find exact fitting white caps at my local Ace to replace the broken cap on one side and the badly faded one on the other. The white tip on the pointer was found on Amazon:


Well, soon I hope to clean up the rest of the stainless trays and start working on the gas connection and the side burner. Then it will be on to rebuilding the firebox and redoing the hood.

Little by little!
 
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Bruce

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Attention to details. I see you going the extra mile like always Jon. SS wing nuts. Did you already repaint the entire frame?
 

Jon Tofte

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Attention to details. I see you going the extra mile like always Jon. SS wing nuts. Did you already repaint the entire frame?
Thanks, Bruce. I know it was a little overboard, but why not? I repainted some of the black wing nuts and plan to at least use one on the tank scale holder clip. They are a lot easier on your fingers then the stainless ones!

Frame is painted and all the stainless parts except the small front piece are cleaned and installed.

I am getting some advice from @LMichaels regarding the two manifolds he included when he sold me this grill. I am trying to get it back to LP setup, since Larry had converted it to NG many years ago. After that it is rebuilding the firebox, including gluing in my stainless plates with the "food grade" RTV I bought. Finally, the hood cleanup and installation. It may actually happen!
 

Jon Tofte

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Your paint job is excellent. Way better than I do. How many coats you use?
Joe,
If I gave you some less flattering pictures, you would see my mess-ups. Even with Rustoleum 2X I am not much of a spray painter! :cautious:

I tried to deal with the limited rust and then used Rustoleum Rust Converter almost as a primer, covering a lot of the black frame metal. I let that cure way longer than needed because I was too busy, but finally applied the 2X Gloss Black. I guess you could say that most metal had two coats in one application, but not all. The handle ends were hard and had to be done and redone a couple times. I had to sand off bad application spots and do them again. Most of the rest of the tube frame parts will be all concealed, so I was primarily interested that they had good coverage and didn't worry about some runs and errors:LOL:.
 

Bruce

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Jon, I put those SS wing nuts on the tank scales some times. When the black ones are missing or trashed, I grab a stainless one. I have several in my parts containers from some of the older Genesis grills that I have parted out. They used those on a lot of the manifolds on older Genesis grills. Weber probably save $.05 per grill by using the cheap stamped steel ones on the tank scales.
 

Rich Dahl

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Amazing dedication and craftsmanship you have put into this project Jon. Kind of reminds me of the old saying " How do you eat an elephant?" "One bite at a time"
 

LMichaels

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Jon, if you're doing a lot of spraying do yourself a favor (if you have a compressor) and buy a small gravity feed spray gun at Harbor Freight. I learned trying to do the Kubota. It's the way to go to get REALLY good results even if you're not a good painter. I also have a small suction feed gun. They have more over spray but oddly I am actually better with that gun than the gravity feed gun. But, I used the gravity feed during the Kubota work because with a couple accessories it's easier to clean up and less mess
These items for not a lot if $$$ will make you look like Earl Scheib :D seriously, you will be amazed at the quality and speed of work you will turn out
 

 

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