I will just leave this here
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LMichaels
TVWBB 2-Star Olympian
Put it in the "not" category. Not even worth 5 minutesCan someone identify this grill? And is it worth driving 45 minutes to retrieve? (If it were a Genesis I'd have already gotten it!)
Grant Cunningham
TVWBB Pro
That's what I wanted to know. Since I really don't know about many other grills apart from Weber, was interested to know if it was a "gem" I'd never heard of.
Grant Cunningham
TVWBB Pro
Oh, I knew that — but didn't know if it was some other worthwhile grill (like a Broilmaster).
Grant Cunningham
TVWBB Pro
Understood.
Besides Broilmaster, who else is worth considering?
Background: I find that I need another grill to supplement the kettle and Genesis 3000. Most of the year the Genesis can do back up to the kettle, but during the summer we can't use charcoal — so I need a second gas grill for summer backup. I'll likely end up with another Genesis, but I'll consider quality options.
Grant Cunningham
TVWBB Pro
After having the Genesis for a while, I'd be inclined to agree with you. This grill has taught me that good food can be made on gas, and at the same time rekindled my love of rotisserie cooking.
Grant Cunningham
TVWBB Pro
I take it you've had good luck with those; some people say they do nothing. Any particular type or model you prefer?
Bruce
TVWBB 2-Star Olympian
LOL, I have owned a couple hundred Silver B's and Genesis 1000's. I rehab and resell them.
For pure performance, I think the Genesis 1000-5000 grills are your best bet. They have the deep fire box with two rows of flavorizer bars which tends to give more even heating at the grate level. Also, due to being a deep box, you can take the grates out and the top layer of flavorizer bars and rotisserie a 20 lb turkey in them with no problem. I do my Thanksgiving turkey on my Genesis 1000 every fall along with chickens and beef roasts every so often.
That being said, parts are getting to be tougher to find for them as they are older grills built up through 1999 when the introduced the Silver/Gold B and C grills in 2000. The biggest differences between them and the older Genesis 1000-5000 grills was that the cook box became a few inches shorter and have only one row of flavorizer bars. Also, they introduced the Thermoset table instead of the older wood/durawood tables which I like for their durability and low maintenance.
Then you have the early E3xx grills which replaced the Silver/Gold B and C grills which ran from about 2007 to 2011 or something like that. They have a shallower cook box similar to the Silver B, but they are bit more modern looking and have cabinets which many people like. The problem is the cabinets after ten years are typically rusted out bad unlike the older grills with open carts.
All the grills cook well and are generally more durable and easily maintained and parts are mostly still available for them all. If you want pure performance, go with a Genesis 1000-5000. If you want simple and low maintenance, go with the Silver/Gold B or C. If you want modern and a cabinet, go with the early Genesis E310 to E335 series. Although, some later Silver and Gold B and C grills did come with cabinets, they suffer the same problems with rust as the Genesis E3xx series.
Bottom line is all three generations of grills incororate the East/West oriented burners which are key for rotisserie work. The second generation and beyond of the E3xx grills moved the knobs in front and went to the North/South oriented burners which make rotisserie work let effective.
So, those are some of my thoughts. Others will hopefully chime in with their thoughts. I tried to give you all my thoughts objectively of which grill generations are the best, but tried to keep objective in my suggestions. What is important to me, may not be important to you. Therefor, I leave the decision up to you. Just keep us posted on your hunt for a grill and what you come up with.
For pure performance, I think the Genesis 1000-5000 grills are your best bet. They have the deep fire box with two rows of flavorizer bars which tends to give more even heating at the grate level. Also, due to being a deep box, you can take the grates out and the top layer of flavorizer bars and rotisserie a 20 lb turkey in them with no problem. I do my Thanksgiving turkey on my Genesis 1000 every fall along with chickens and beef roasts every so often.
That being said, parts are getting to be tougher to find for them as they are older grills built up through 1999 when the introduced the Silver/Gold B and C grills in 2000. The biggest differences between them and the older Genesis 1000-5000 grills was that the cook box became a few inches shorter and have only one row of flavorizer bars. Also, they introduced the Thermoset table instead of the older wood/durawood tables which I like for their durability and low maintenance.
Then you have the early E3xx grills which replaced the Silver/Gold B and C grills which ran from about 2007 to 2011 or something like that. They have a shallower cook box similar to the Silver B, but they are bit more modern looking and have cabinets which many people like. The problem is the cabinets after ten years are typically rusted out bad unlike the older grills with open carts.
All the grills cook well and are generally more durable and easily maintained and parts are mostly still available for them all. If you want pure performance, go with a Genesis 1000-5000. If you want simple and low maintenance, go with the Silver/Gold B or C. If you want modern and a cabinet, go with the early Genesis E310 to E335 series. Although, some later Silver and Gold B and C grills did come with cabinets, they suffer the same problems with rust as the Genesis E3xx series.
Bottom line is all three generations of grills incororate the East/West oriented burners which are key for rotisserie work. The second generation and beyond of the E3xx grills moved the knobs in front and went to the North/South oriented burners which make rotisserie work let effective.
So, those are some of my thoughts. Others will hopefully chime in with their thoughts. I tried to give you all my thoughts objectively of which grill generations are the best, but tried to keep objective in my suggestions. What is important to me, may not be important to you. Therefor, I leave the decision up to you. Just keep us posted on your hunt for a grill and what you come up with.
Grant Cunningham
TVWBB Pro
Boy, is my face red...I meant to ask which smoke box you've had good luck with, because some people don't think they do much!
But since you have a lot of experience with these things: do the drip troughs from the Silver/Gold series interchange with the x000 series? (Edited to add: how about the drip trough from the early Spirit grills? I see a lot of those in my area.)
Bruce
TVWBB 2-Star Olympian
I don't deal much with the Spirit line of grills so I can't really comment on the grease pans interchangeability on them. But the Silver/Gold grease pans are not interchangeable with the Genesis 1000-5000 grills.
When I say "grease pan", I am talking about the big black one that slide in under the cook box.
As for the smoke box, I use mostly a V shaped one that sits between two flavorizer bars. This is the one I use, but it looks like it is unavailable now.
I also have a flat rectangular one that sits on top of the flavorizer bars that I got on one of my grill rehab pickups. I fill them both and put the V shaped one in first. If I still want more smoke, I can swap them out quick.
When I say "grease pan", I am talking about the big black one that slide in under the cook box.
As for the smoke box, I use mostly a V shaped one that sits between two flavorizer bars. This is the one I use, but it looks like it is unavailable now.
Amazon.com: Charcoal Companion Stainless Steel V-Shape Smoker Box For Gas Grill Wood Chips (Long) - CC4066: Garden & Outdoor
Amazon.com: Charcoal Companion Stainless Steel V-Shape Smoker Box For Gas Grill Wood Chips (Long) - CC4066: Garden & Outdoor
www.amazon.com
I also have a flat rectangular one that sits on top of the flavorizer bars that I got on one of my grill rehab pickups. I fill them both and put the V shaped one in first. If I still want more smoke, I can swap them out quick.
Grant Cunningham
TVWBB Pro
Yes, that's the part I'm talking about. Apparently Weber calls it a "bottom tray".
The more I think about this, the more I'm going to look for another Genesis x000 model. That way I'll have parts interchangeability, which makes putting together a stash of spares easier.
Thanks. I'll keep my eyes out for a v-shaped one.
Do you place it on the far left, close to the crossover tube?
Grant Cunningham
TVWBB Pro
Looks like it's being sold under this name now:
Amazon.com: Bull 24112 Stainless Gas Grill V-Shape Smoker Box: Garden & Outdoor
Amazon.com: Bull 24112 Stainless Gas Grill V-Shape Smoker Box: Garden & Outdoor
www.amazon.com
Bruce
TVWBB 2-Star Olympian
Usually I do, It helps getting the wood hot and started smoking.
Ed P
TVWBB Platinum Member
I have both a Silver C and a few of the early Genesis grills. It''s like Ford vs Chevy as to which is better. The Silvers are much more plentiful (and cheap) in my area. I like the Silvers over the early Gennies for several reasons, but you pay your money and take your choice. I also have the V-shaped smoke box and the rectangular Smoke N Chips but i find that I usually just use smoke bombs (chips wrapped in foil). Just make up a few and toss them in from time to time, easy peasy.