Questions about my Summit 650 resto
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Richard in NS
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Jim, I like the shelf. Powder coated should last longer than the Weber painted one. Nice job on the rest of the restore too.
The ole gal is coming along. I have been patching her up with new metal everywhere she needs. New bottom shelf is fab'd installed and painted. New cook box upper lip to cover the rusted rough edge. New heat shield. I removed the IR burner tonight and it looks like the thermocouple copper line was a little rough where it enters the little metal box of the IR burner. I am scratching my head a bit w this dang IR burner....its my last road block other than the doors of the cabinet. I am picking up a donor tomorrow for $75 bucks....fingers crossed it will help me resolve the IR issues.
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Bill Pudim
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You are making great progress, it’s looking good!
Well.....I gotta tell ya.....the first one is always the toughest. Yes it will most likely be my last one unless I see one in awesome condition. Now I know where all the parts and pieces go and how they work. The IR burner scenario was a pain in the neck but if I had to do it again I could knock it out a heck of a lot faster. I ended up using the IR from my donor grill and just got lucky that it came to life and blaze orange. The manifolds have the ignitor holders that rust out and that is no good either....not as simple as the Genesis world. You guys alerted me to the inner cook box heat shields that rust out. I have to say....for a grill that sold for mega $$$$$$$ I would have hoped it was more bullet proof. I bet they were real darn nice to cook on when they were shiny and new and I am sure that the newer models are built smarter...well....I hope they are anyway. All I have left to do now is to re install the rear hood IR cover and then I get to do a burn off. Man o man I hope this burn off goes well....I will report back with some temp numbers.
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Bill Pudim
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I fired mine up today for the first time since finishing it. Not that it matters to me, but some feel time to temperature is some sort of gauge. 0-400° 3 min, 600° 7 min, 700° 15 min.
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Yep....thanks. I hope the story ends well 
...I cant wait to do the burn off. I will be selling the grill with a few extra parts from my donor so the new owner will be good to go for a while.
Bill those are some super speedy numbers!!! Six burners plus IR can really get cookin in a hurry. I hope I have similar success.
...I cant wait to do the burn off. I will be selling the grill with a few extra parts from my donor so the new owner will be good to go for a while.Bill those are some super speedy numbers!!! Six burners plus IR can really get cookin in a hurry. I hope I have similar success.
Dave in KC
TVWBB Wizard
Jim, it's looking great. Great score with that donor also.
I hope you have better success w/ your resale than I am.
I hope you have better success w/ your resale than I am.
LMichaels
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You have the "newer model". So that should answer your question
Yikes a 2007 is the " newer model " ...... ok then...question has been answered.
As for selling it....Im not the go for the throat kind of seller. I sell for what I think its real value is. The way I look at it I sell beautiful Genesis 300 series grills for $300 and $350 and they have another 7 to 10 years left on them by the time I am done with them. Given that my Summit has several metal patches and she is 15 years old I think a fair price for the ole gal is $550. I did loosely pre sell this for $700 before I did any work to it....but I just dont think its worth $700 and wouldnt feel right selling it for that much. Ya see......when I am finished the " pain " fades away ......the metal shards from the wire wheels have been plucked from my shirt.....the grease has been removed from under my finger nails......the shop floor has been swept.....the spare parts have been tucked away......then I get soft and enjoy the sense of accomplishment and set more rational prices. If you had asked me while I was trying to fix the dang IR burner and driving 100 miles to get a donor...the price was $2000.00!!!!
As for selling it....Im not the go for the throat kind of seller. I sell for what I think its real value is. The way I look at it I sell beautiful Genesis 300 series grills for $300 and $350 and they have another 7 to 10 years left on them by the time I am done with them. Given that my Summit has several metal patches and she is 15 years old I think a fair price for the ole gal is $550. I did loosely pre sell this for $700 before I did any work to it....but I just dont think its worth $700 and wouldnt feel right selling it for that much. Ya see......when I am finished the " pain " fades away ......the metal shards from the wire wheels have been plucked from my shirt.....the grease has been removed from under my finger nails......the shop floor has been swept.....the spare parts have been tucked away......then I get soft and enjoy the sense of accomplishment and set more rational prices.
If you had asked me while I was trying to fix the dang IR burner and driving 100 miles to get a donor...the price was $2000.00!!!! 
Jon Tofte
TVWBB 1-Star Olympian
Yeah, Jim, Weber has been riding on that same basic design for a very long time. I think they are way overdue for a revision that I hope will address all the premature rusting out, both in the cabinetry and the firebox front. Personally, I would like to see the Summit be less bulky but built out of better materials.
I think your pricing is very fair and that you have done great work that is worthy of it. As Dave alluded to, it is harder to sell higher priced used grills, so just be patient. You just have to find the right buyer!
I think your pricing is very fair and that you have done great work that is worthy of it. As Dave alluded to, it is harder to sell higher priced used grills, so just be patient. You just have to find the right buyer!
Jon Tofte
TVWBB 1-Star Olympian
Someone trying to sell theirs and obviously not getting action. I much prefer the black, and this one at least has an intact cabinet even if door magnets are gone or not working:
Maybe a broken right leg or caster?
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Its just not in my nature to advertise something without even trying to clean it up for sale. That black one could look dazzling with 30min of cleaning. Anyway its in a lot better shape than mine was for sure. The IR burner looks very fresh.
I did a heat run tonight on mine....I must admit I hate the way the ignition system works. I fired up the 6 cook box burners and she ran to 650 degrees like a scalded mule! This Summit is a real monster!! I knew I shouldnt have mentioned how happy I was about fixing my IR burner because after blazing the 6 burners to 650 degrees, I tried the IR....I couldnt get it to stay lit
I am not sure if all of that heat inside the cook box scares the hell out of the thermocouple or what but it would ignite but just would not stay lit....back to square one.
I did a heat run tonight on mine....I must admit I hate the way the ignition system works. I fired up the 6 cook box burners and she ran to 650 degrees like a scalded mule! This Summit is a real monster!! I knew I shouldnt have mentioned how happy I was about fixing my IR burner because after blazing the 6 burners to 650 degrees, I tried the IR....I couldnt get it to stay lit
I am not sure if all of that heat inside the cook box scares the hell out of the thermocouple or what but it would ignite but just would not stay lit....back to square one.Attachments
