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It’s actually getting difficult to find mechanics that will still work on the older stuff as well. Yeah there are some specialty shops, but not many know how rotors and points work, or understand a distributor. Carburetor guys are also getting really difficult to find.
 
Cody Bratton said:
It’s actually getting difficult to find mechanics that will still work on the older stuff as well. Yeah there are some specialty shops, but not many know how rotors and points work, or understand a distributor. Carburetor guys are also getting really difficult to find.
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The absolute best upgrade I did was a Petronix electronic ignition conversion 15 years ago. I will never go back to points if there is an electronic conversion option available. And, since I'm an enabler, I've helped a handful of friends convert points to electronic ignition. I was worried about reliability so I shrink wrapped the original points and all and tucked them away under the bow, but I've never needed them.

Other than yard tools, I have one engine with a carburetor; a Holley 4160: 600 CFM double pumper. I don't trust anyone working on it but me.
A few years back I looked into an EFI swap but it is a marine application and not only expensive, complicated to get sensors installed with a wet exhaust. Besides, the carb is pretty fool proof since I set it up correctly.
 
I have a very limited understanding of how insurance companies work, but from what little I know it's kind of like gambling is for bookies and bookmaking. There are a very few global re-insurers with billions of dollars in policies that insure the astronomically valuable assets, like maybe Bezos' $500M yacht, or the Mona Lisa or Hope Diamond. The small insurance companies, if they are overly-exposed, will lay off some of their insurance liability to these larger re-insurers to limit the amount of their losses in situations like the wildfires in CA, similar to how a bookie might take in a lot of bets on a highly-favored local team that they then lay off to other bookies to minimize their exposure in case of a loss.

Let me know if you hear of a large insurer (State Farm, Allstate, Farmer's, etc) that isn't profitable. They wouldn't be in business if they weren't.
 
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DanHoo said:
The absolute best upgrade I did was a Petronix electronic ignition conversion 15 years ago. I will never go back to points if there is an electronic conversion option available. And, since I'm an enabler, I've helped a handful of friends convert points to electronic ignition. I was worried about reliability so I shrink wrapped the original points and all and tucked them away under the bow, but I've never needed them.

Other than yard tools, I have one engine with a carburetor; a Holley 4160: 600 CFM double pumper. I don't trust anyone working on it but me.
A few years back I looked into an EFI swap but it is a marine application and not only expensive, complicated to get sensors installed with a wet exhaust. Besides, the carb is pretty fool proof since I set it up correctly.
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I agree 100%. But a lot of the all original cars get docked points. The electronic ignition swaps are awesome. Have come a LONG way in the pricing and availability the last 20 years. I haven’t dabbled into the EFI conversions personally, but have worked on or assisted others with them. It’s still amazing to me though how the hold school guys could tune a carb once dynos became more popular and of course the exhaust gas metering for air fuel ratios.
 
Cody Bratton said:
I agree 100%. But a lot of the all original cars get docked points. The electronic ignition swaps are awesome. Have come a LONG way in the pricing and availability the last 20 years. I haven’t dabbled into the EFI conversions personally, but have worked on or assisted others with them. It’s still amazing to me though how the hold school guys could tune a carb once dynos became more popular and of course the exhaust gas metering for air fuel ratios.
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Yep count me as "old school" guy who could tune a carb by feeling the grill with my stomach and by the seat of my pants and my ears. Didn't need no stinkin computer
 
I liked the guys that would cup the exhaust pipe and smell their hands.

I have a couple of friends who do the EFI tuning of high horsepower cars... it is equally insane what they can do.
 
Got an in person look at the new spirit 4 burner at Farm and Fleet yesterday.

The initial first look, the wheels jumped out to me as cheap looking, but glad to see no casters on the opposite axle.
The cookbox looks heavier than I expected (I didn’t have a micrometer to measure). But looks good.
The cabinet seemed pretty sturdy and the magnet on the door actually had (for now) some strength to keep the door firmly closed. Smooth operating hinge (I forgot to look at its design, if it will hold up). I was bummed as it didn’t have the LP tank holding piece installed because I really wanted to see that inside.
Lid has some weight to it and the hinges, the pins have the R clip on the inside of the cookbox now. Not sure if other newer models have gone that route. The openings around the lid to cookbox don’t look as large to me, so I’m guessing with all 4 burners rolling, these babies are going to get HOT!
The side tables had a sturdy feel to them as well, like I wouldn’t be afraid to use it to move it around like I am with my e330.

My wife asked me, “that’s not a bad grill for $600, is it?” I’d have to say, for a plain Jane entry level grill, it’s not a horrible price!
 
Josh Dekubber said:
For $600 I could make at least one or two really nice Genesis x000s. That would be my preference. You could even buy one restored if a person didn't have the ability to do the work.
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2/3 of a restoration is giving the grill a good cleaning and making sure all the internal parts are in good condition. My everyday grill is just this and hasn't been fully restored by any means. Unfortunately for me, a fully restored grill equals a grill I will never use again.
 
Josh Dekubber said:
For $600 I could make at least one or two really nice Genesis x000s. That would be my preference. You could even buy one restored if a person didn't have the ability to do the work.
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No doubt. I could make 3 damn nice silver B grills for $600. But for the average consumer, a $600 price point isn’t terrible based on what I was looking at. It’s hard to predict where it will rust. It was also pretty well vented.
 
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