Hello! Hoping the experts in this group can help me to choose a high-quality, long lasting workhorse


 

Hannah Fry

New member
First, I want to share my admiration of this community and the threads I’ve pored over. Not an exaggeration to say that I discovered this site at about 8pm yesterday, and then literally stayed up until 4am digging through the wealth of knowledge shared here.

My dad raised me to value well-made, high quality materials. He taught me to weld, frequently took me shopping at his favorite “store”—a stainless steel scrapyard, and showed me how to modify items to make them better and make them last. Unfortunately, he died unexpectedly at age 65, and now I find myself turning to internet research when I wish I could just ask his opinion (and have him fabricate any parts I need and fix anything and anything and everything with me).

Anyhow, I was up into the wee hours trying to figure out from your posts which grill I should purchase. Looking for high quality materials and craftsmanship, and ideally a grill in good shape or already rehabbed (I have two young kids, so trying to be realistic about what I have capacity to do myself). Aesthetics aren’t important to me, but solid construction, ease of use is. Mostly will use for our family of 4. Only necessary function for me is grilling. No need at all for infrared, smoker, rotisserie. Side burner and sear function would be bonus, but absolutely fine without those.

I narrowed my choices down to 5 options based on what I’ve read here and what is available around me. However, I am unsure about the final decision and found myself wishing I could ask my dad’s opinion. Then I thought: Hey! Maybe instead of just reading what you all have already shared with others, I could ask YOU to advise me directly.

General question:
I saw some posts about N-S orientation burners as a significant improvement over E-W, but it appears to me that the older models people seem to love are N-S. Does it not matter as much if the grill surface area is smaller and you’re more likely to be cooking on the entire surface? Is it the 13-bar orientation that makes the older genesis models good, despite the E-W burner orientation? It’s been hard for me to pin down exactly which models that orientation change happened, and whether I should take that into consideration.

Below is a list of my five options (all Genesis), and I’ve attached two photos of each option (exterior and interior) .

I would appreciate it so much to hear advice from the members of this community to help guide my decision. Thank you!

1. Skyline 1200 - $125 (images 2138, 2139)

From seller: “This is older but was refurbished and then barely used. Repainted everything but the hood. New stainless flavorizers. Several new burners. Replaced plastic front wheels with casters. Works fine.“

2. Silver 2nd Gen. (2000) - $150 w/cover (images 2132, 2133)

I gather from your existing threads that people tend to be fans of the Genesis Silver A & B—are those versions notably different and/or superior to this earlier model?

3. Mystery option! I think a Gold C hood (bc handle) on a Gold - $70 w/cover (images 2146, 2147)

4. S-310 - $175 w/cover (images 2141, 2142)
Needs igniter replaced. I’m assuming that is pretty simple & cheap part.


5. S-330 - **$350 (UPDATED)** (images 2144, 9143)
Flipped option from a rehab guy offering the blue finish for $400, but he’ll swap out the panels and hood to stainless for $350. I prefer the stainless aesthetic, and the lower price is nice. Please let me know if there is any performance reason to consider the enamel finish.
 

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Hannah, WELCOME!!!!!!! We need more females here!!!

Sorry, I don't know a thing about the grills, but I can keep you supplied in recipes:)

I really miss my Dad also.😢
 
Hi Hannah, welcome! Ranking these grills based on desirability plus price factored in, this would be my list. 3,1,2. The others I wouldn't bother with unless my first three choices were unavailable. Hope this helps, feel free to ask any other questions you have.
 
welcome Hanna, Great questions.

I own or have cooked onall of the above. Here are my opinions. I'm sure you'll get others.

Grilling my hands-down favorite is the front control Genesis E330 ( your option #5). If I could only keep one gas grill it would be this one. I have this grill and use it often. If I'm not cooking over coal, then 95% of the time I will use this over my Genesis 1000.

My second favorite is a Genesis 1000 similar to your option #1. it is on my back patio right next to the E330 but I use it much less often.

I also had ( still have in storage ) a Genesis Silver B and used it for 20+ years. It is a solid work horse.

I am not a fan of the side control 300 series. My mom has one and its OK, but I prefer the front control E330 or a Genesis 1000 over it.

Lastly, one that is not on your list, is a front control 300 series without a sear burner. I would avoid this no matter what. I have cooked on a front control E310 and it is underpowered. The addition of a sear burner is a must have and well worth it.

Good luck with your search.

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Hannah, WELCOME!!!!!!! We need more females here!!!

Sorry, I don't know a thing about the grills, but I can keep you supplied in recipes:)

I really miss my Dad also.😢
Thank you, Joan. I was smiling to myself when I joined the group that my dad would be proud of me for sure for finding people who have the kind of skills and knowledge he had and can share them with me in his absence.

I did notice a dearth of women in the threads. But I can related to the guys’ comments about their partners’ tolerating their interests and the “keep it under wraps from the wife” feeling mentioned in a lot of the convos. If my husband had woken up at 4am last night to see me in obscure online threads about grill restoration, he would think I’d need to be committed.

I was raised by farmers who learn about how things work, try to make things last a long time, and are always looking for ways to improve and reuse equipment. He was raised in a white collar family where they would go out and make big purchases (always new) when they needed them without all of the research and learning I tend to put into my decisions.
 
oh, heck. i'll just add in here. why even bother with gas? charcoal is the most simplistic way of grilling with the most flavor afforded. these are my opinions and likely shared by others.

cooking over real fire is as basic as you can get and offers a lot of control. if you're after materials and workmanship, charcoal just goes and goes and goes.

gas is nice for its convenience. having done the charcoal to propane to nat gas to smoker back to charcoal, i can say going full circle now I am at my happiest point yet.

my tool is the WSK. E6 or S6. power/performance/versatility/outcome, nothing comes close to near perfection than this grill.

i spoke my peace. welcome to the forum. you will find the knowledgebase here to be extraordinary.
 
Hi Hanna and welcome! Stick around and post your cooks when you get grill-settled. Very sorry for your loss.

There are a ton of folks here who always go above and beyond to help with questions like yours. You might want to post your questions in the Gas Grill threads. I suspect those get greater visibility...we're always looking through those.

Welcome again and enjoy!
 
Welcome, welcome!

Is this your family's first owned grill? I'm not sure I'd get an older Genesis possibly in need of work as a first grill.

Have you considered a 22" Weber kettle?


I'm still using my dad's 18" kettle that he received as a gift in 1985. Very fun to use, and relatively inexpensive point of entry even when buying a shiny new one. I had a lot of fun cooking on the kettle with my dad when I was younger, and it was more memorable than the gas grill, which we used (and continue to use) more almost like an outdoor oven.

A good friend of mine was in a similar position, where she didn't really want to roll the dice on a used Genesis, but didn't want to spend for a new Genesis, and ended up with a 22" kettle instead, which she and her brother love cooking on. I think she bought at the end of the season, because she caught a sale on the Premium version that includes the bucket-style ash catcher.

It can be really fun to work on an older Genesis if you find the time, and a new Genesis is much, much more expensive, and only time will tell if they hold up as well as the old ones. Our group here loves and cherishes the older ones. Unfortunately, my dad neglected ours to the point of it being put out to pasture. I wish I had found this group earlier, because I would have probably been able to save our old one with enough effort.

We have a Genesis S-330/ish model like the blue one in your pictures, except with stainless hood and doors, which I've been able to keep running and intact despite my dad's best efforts to neglect it. I agree with @DanHoo that this is my favorite gas grill to use. It's not quite as indestructible or "cool" as the older models, but it just works really well for us.
 
Not an exaggeration to say that I discovered this site at about 8pm yesterday, and then literally stayed up until 4am digging through the wealth of knowledge shared here.
Welcome Hannah!
Yes there is a boat load of info here. I lurked for a few months before I took the plunge into the WSM.
Gasser, charcoal, pellet , electric, all good as long as you're enjoying yourself outdoors.
 
Hannah -- I have a 2000s Silver B (E/W) and also an S330 (n/S). Both still going strong.

You should go with the S330. Larger sized grill top, but plenty of BTU oomph with the sear zone burner. I think that size grill is undersized with only three regular burners -- so your #3 is no good to me. Nice SS rod grates and flav bars. I think the N/S burners on that sized grill are simpler to do direct/indirect than with the E/W burners. Side burner is nice to have, but most folks rarely use it.

The Silver B is a fine grill. Built more solidly than the 330, but 15 years older, kind of small, and kind of under-powered imo. They'd probably both wear out at the size time. 330 should have parts available longer than the Silver B will.

#3 is cool because of the double flip up tables. Very nice work station in a small foot print. So the Gold would be my second choice.

If you wanted to go new, Costco is selling some very nice Genesis II 335s that are dis-continued elsewhere. Tank on the side (better than inside the cart imo), mostly open cart (like the older models), PCCI grates (most of the time), side burner, sear zone. My Costco has them for $700.

 
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Hi Hannah, welcome! Ranking these grills based on desirability plus price factored in, this would be my list. 3,1,2. The others I wouldn't bother with unless my first three choices were unavailable. Hope this helps, feel free to ask any other questions you have.
I’m pretty sure @Steve Hoch and I are brothers from another mother as we tend to agree on nearly everything. This little experiment is no exception. 3,1,2 for me as well and I wouldn’t give much consideration to the others at all. I’d probably look to swap the lid some time down the road on #3 if I were fortunate enough to acquire it.
 
Go for the Gold!
The sturdy build and meaty handle and lid are very nice! I love that color too!
Good luck and welcome to the forum!
 
If you’re going Gas, get the “Skyline” and keep it clean, you will have it for thirty years!
I use both, ten various charcoal units and one gasser (still under rebuild status, big project!)
 

 

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