No way I will keep it a secret George! I did not think any one was as CHEAP as me..LOL.. I just grab my charcoal at Sav-A Lot.. It is like an aldi..The "house" brand of charcoal is called Kindle. It nothing special, but when you go thru a bag or more all summer long every week! It is a No frills supermarket. I always go 1st thing in the morning cause they always put out discounted meat that is still awesome to smoke!