If You Are A Shareholder...
- Thread starter Jim Lampe
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Hunter Butler
TVWBB Fan
I’d make some mean joke about being a Packers fan, but I’m a Panthers fan and right now I don’t have high hopes for the new coach and owner.
TravisGrimm
TVWBB Member
Well don't start rooting for the browns! Have somewhat high hopes for 2 decent seasons in a row
John K BBQ
TVWBB Wizard
AFC will be a toss up between the Chiefs and Browns. Should be an interesting season. Browns will be tough if Kareem Hunt can stay out of trouble and stay healthy. He was amazing to watch at KC and I don't think the new RB's at KC are nearly as good.
Kareem is a proven superior RB, no doubt. Any team would have been right to sign him, even though he will never be a Chief again.
But he was not utilized as a dump off receiver as was Helaire last season. It is entirely possible the commitment KC has made to the O line will pay off in dividends for Helaire's yards from scrimmage.
Darwin Thompson's week 17 start against a good Chargers defense is also worth noting. I personally think there are reasons beyond cap space and Darrel Williams prompting KC to move on from Damien Williams (who in my opinion was deserving of Super Bowl LIV MVP consideration).
disclaimer - I've been a perennial Chiefs optimist since I was old enough to read the sports page and will not be attending the Packers shareholder meeting
John K BBQ
TVWBB Wizard
The Chiefs have definitely had their share of good (or even great) running backs..... I have a Priest Holmes Chiefs jersey hanging in the closet and usually wear it for game 1 of each season.
Lynn Dollar
TVWBB Emerald Member
My brother was at Lambeau yesterday. He's on a tour bus traveling up north . Got a tour of a luxury suite
Jeff Boudman
TVWBB Wizard
He’s serious about wanting a new stadium with a dome. I don’t think he’d hesitate to move the team.
Timothy F. Lewis
TVWBB 1-Star Olympian
No matter what, if the little green bakery is open across the parking lot go get some of their maple bars for me! Great bakery!
Jeff Boudman
TVWBB Wizard
It sure would be.
Jim Lampe
TVWBB 1-Star Olympian
the idea of playing football inside a dome makes as much sense as playing baseball outside... i.e. Minnesota Vikings, Minnesota Twins.
Vikings play indoors while the Twins play outside, with rain delays, snow and cold temps at the start of the season...
having a retractable roof, however, makes it ideal. Open during glorious weather and closed during wet, miserable inclement days...
anyway, the Packers Shareholders meeting is basically a pre-season party. Looking forward to it. Again.
Jeff Boudman
TVWBB Wizard
Enjoy!
John K BBQ
TVWBB Wizard
As a resident of St. Louis, and former St. Louis Rams fan (1999 thru about 2003) and Chiefs fan from 2001 to current day (yes, I know I have overlap). and STL Cardinals baseball fan, I have developed the following opinion, on pro sports, people that own teams, and pro-athletes
There are some owners, and some athletes who are only and all about the money, and most others are walking a line in between. Some owners and players are out for all the money they can get, and they have no appreciation for the fans. Stan Kroenke, the owner of the NFL Rams is squarely is in the "Money Camp" He simply wasn't making enough money (whatever that # is) in St. Louis, and then used his legal team to find loop holes to exit St. Louis. That was OK, but he disrespected his players and team for putting a non-competitive team on the field for several years in a row. And then the way out, he said a bunch of bad things about my town, and I have no respect for him now (not that he cares). Now that he's in LA, he's walking the line, spending enough $$ on the team to compete, but I guarantee you, he still doesn't have any appreciation for the fans. If a few years down the road, if he thinks he can move the team again to another city (San Diego comes to mind) and make more money, he'll do it.
To me, the sad part is that our city and county governments throw tax breaks and subsidies at these pro sports teams. Subsidies for business that create a significant amount of high paying jobs are acceptable - but I checked... and learned that an NFL football team, players and staff are normally around 153 people. Even if you triple that number based on the absurdly high salaries of the athletes and some coaches, it still doesn't make sense because pro-athletes rarely live in the town where their team is based, therefore they don't pay taxes there. Then the rest of the job creation includes people to work at the games and maintain facilities (mostly low paying jobs). How is that an investment in the future of a community? If anyone can help me understand, I'd be interested in the counterpoint.
I can identify with the owners that are walking the line, and showing some loyalty /respect the players and fan base. I think the STL Cardinals and KC Chiefs are in this camp. I'm getting frustrated with the Cardinals because they aren't managing to win. They are all about the tradition, and treating their fans and players well, but if they cared about winning they'd be cutting dead wood and signing new talent. Despite the enormous choke in the last Superbowl, the Chiefs are managing to win. Again showing loyalty to fans, and treating their players right. But, my guess is that both of these organizations are making PLENTY of cash, and feel secure in their future cash flows in their current stadiums/location. If something changed, these owners would sell or move.
The good pro-athletes really do want to win and want the money that comes after that. Pro Athletes make some big sacrifices in order to play the sport, and I'm mostly OK with the rewards they get. On the other hand, there are some not-so-good ones that just want money. My least favorites are the fakers who get paid a TON and don't produce. Imagine having a great year in your job/profession - and then just laying up where everyone can see it - could you live with yourself? If I had some hidden injury, some psychological issue, or if every pitcher in the league just cracked the code on keeping me off base for 2 or 3 years, and it was on TV and internet for the world to see, I'd be too embarrassed to go on, and I'd hang it up.
Back to the beginning of this thread - the Packers, and the elephant in the room. Rodgers is a player who wants to win, and wants to make money. The Packers are doing the same crap the STL Cardinals are. They know the fans will keep coming to the games no matter what, and they'll keep buying Packer gear, no matter what. Of course the Packers are "fan owned" but they want to have enough money in the bank for their comfort levels, so they don't want to overspend. Which is way different than the Kroenke play book. The Packers are trying to walk the line and keep everyone happy, but Rodgers is sick of it because he wants to win. Sometimes when you try to make everyone happy, no one ends up happy. I respect the Packers organization, and I respect Aaron Rodgers too - hopefully they can work it out and play some good football this fall.
Rant over. I got a pork but at 199F, better go do the feel test
Hunter Butler
TVWBB Fan
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wouldn’t be upset if they stayed in the Carolinas - let SC pay for a Stadium.
Jeff Boudman
TVWBB Wizard
I’ve had PSLs since the they were offered and I’m thinking they’re worthless now. Sure had some great times! Unless you can get the progressive city council, county commissioners, and state to work together they will be in South Carolina. Not a big deal for me, but a black eye for Charlotte and N.C.
Hunter Butler
TVWBB Fan
I mean he’s worth a bajillion dollars he doesn’t need the city to pay for it - it would take some hard economic study reports for me to be convinced a stadium is a worthwhile investment. (Maybe it is, it just doesn’t feel like it is to me)
Jim Lampe
TVWBB 1-Star Olympian
This thread isn’t bout Rodgers holding out or any other player, it’s not about your favourite team and how many trophies they have. It most certainly is not about the money players or owners make....
it’s none of that.
imagine if your favourite team hosted an event much like this meeting, ....
You’d wet your shorts.
it’s none of that.
imagine if your favourite team hosted an event much like this meeting, ....
You’d wet your shorts.
