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Cody Bratton said:
That is pretty cool! And to be clear, all 3 grates are the same? I would be interested to see the temp difference at each grate level too. Is it hotter lower, or higher? I would think closer to the burner, the hotter since heat can escape thru the sides?

This makes me think back to when, I did some brats on my 330, and put them up on the warming rack while I was waiting for my burgers to finish... went inside for not even 5 minutes and came out to split brats. I wondered if the warming rack, cooking with indirect heat (medium on furthest left and right N/S burners, was hotter than what the grate level was.
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Yes the 3 grates are identical and can be had in cast iron or very nice stainless.
 
LMichaels said:
Oddly enough I would not bother with them if they were next door. Those WSMs don't light a fire for me
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I'd love one to play with. I love smoking brisket or ribs on the performer. No real interest in a pellet cooker, I don't want electronics that will eventually fail. Besides,I enjoy the ritual of cooking over charcoal without all the "things"
Closest I would get would be possibly the spider venom in my kettle. At least if it failed I could still cook without it
 
I get the people saying "oh I don't want all the electronic stuff" go back maybe 7-8 years ago in my own posts and ideas and I was singing the same tune. But I went to the "Dahk Side" got not just 1 but 2 pellet grills AND an electric car!. I'm LOVIN the electronics and the tech and found it doesn't detract at all from the enjoyment of cooking it simply has opened many more doors and brought FAR more enjoyment to my culinary experiences. Just like I am lovin' my electric car and new induction range. Hell I want to get a second electric vehicle, and quite honestly I rarely touch a grill unless it's one of my pellet grills. Love my smart appliances too. None of the tech has detracted in any way from how much I enjoy things or get outside and cook up some Q. It's wonderful because it brings a level of consistency so I can get more creative in other ways. Many here were trying to explain that to me and I stuck to my old fashioned guns.
So be careful the bug might just "bite you" too :D
 
Larry I can see why you like all your new electronics for convenience and I don't think it takes away from the enjoyment for the most part. My issue with all these electronic gadgets is that newer stuff isn't built to last and the older I get and harder it is to get away from all these electronics and find stuff that is built to last. It really makes me appreciate older things a lot. I miss my manual door locks and crank up Windows. I miss all the old things that were over engineered to last generations. I realize this is just my opinion though and I can 100% understand others point of view. I've just been bitten by a different bug and the older I get the more I appreciate older things that were built to last from a simpler time. Maybe I was born 50 years too late or maybe growing up with all the electronics has made me appreciate a different time before all this stuff.
 
I get it Josh. I too appreciate older things (more nostalgic than anything else) i.e. the wonderful burble of a Pontiac 389 or 421/428. But nostalgia makes many of these things better "in our minds" than they really were. I.E. digging into my memory. A service schedule from a 1960's Cadillac 2500-3000 miles adjust ign points, change oil and filter, 5k readjust points, service brakes, 10k replace points, plugs, condenser, many times wires as well, every 20-24k all rubber parts hoses, belts etc, replace along with coolant flush. I could go on but I hope you get the idea. Many times things were better in our mind than in reality.
Now would I sell my first born to get my hands on a gorgeous 1967 Coupe De Ville? You bet (though her husband may not like the idea) :D
 
LMichaels said:
I get the people saying "oh I don't want all the electronic stuff" go back maybe 7-8 years ago in my own posts and ideas and I was singing the same tune. But I went to the "Dahk Side" got not just 1 but 2 pellet grills AND an electric car!. I'm LOVIN the electronics and the tech and found it doesn't detract at all from the enjoyment of cooking it simply has opened many more doors and brought FAR more enjoyment to my culinary experiences. Just like I am lovin' my electric car and new induction range. Hell I want to get a second electric vehicle, and quite honestly I rarely touch a grill unless it's one of my pellet grills. Love my smart appliances too. None of the tech has detracted in any way from how much I enjoy things or get outside and cook up some Q. It's wonderful because it brings a level of consistency so I can get more creative in other ways. Many here were trying to explain that to me and I stuck to my old fashioned guns.
So be careful the bug might just "bite you" too :D
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I understand, I just can't see myself getting there. I'm that guy that has always had a manual car, at least one of the 2 in the household is a standard. Currently that's the 2011 GTI 6 speed. Base model, not even steering wheel radio controls. Second car is a 15 MDX advance, total opposite. Has all the tech (for a 15) and it's nice, but I went for that as anyone newer had the electronic shifter that's a push button. Nope, done like that nonsense. I love working with my hands, swinging wrenches, etc. and I've had a few friends with pellet grills where there is some software glitch, issue, etc that I just didn't want to be a part of. I even drive a Tesla model x for a day, hard pass. I just do not like the feel of driving an appliance, it isn't for me. I'm a motorcycle, snowmobile, manual car enthusiast through and through, and I know that isn't the norm 😂
 
LMichaels said:
I get it Josh. I too appreciate older things (more nostalgic than anything else) i.e. the wonderful burble of a Pontiac 389 or 421/428. But nostalgia makes many of these things better "in our minds" than they really were. I.E. digging into my memory. A service schedule from a 1960's Cadillac 2500-3000 miles adjust ign points, change oil and filter, 5k readjust points, service brakes, 10k replace points, plugs, condenser, many times wires as well, every 20-24k all rubber parts hoses, belts etc, replace along with coolant flush. I could go on but I hope you get the idea. Many times things were better in our mind than in reality.
Now would I sell my first born to get my hands on a gorgeous 1967 Coupe De Ville? You bet (though her husband may not like the idea) :D
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I totally understand your perspective and your point of view and I can 100% see why you feel that way but I'm kind of at the opposite end of the spectrum where I feel like all these electronics are better in the mind than they are in reality and it doesn't make it wrong or right it's just my preference. I respect other people's preferences also even if they are not in line with mine.
 
Thinking on it now, I think what gives me joy in a lot of things is the mastery. I have and use an 87 autocar (BIG old triaxle dump truck) that when you can get it to shift right using no clutch and rev matching on the downshift is very satisfying. I think that probably what drives me in a lot of my endeavors and hobbies. Kind of an interesting thought experiment to try and figure out what gives me joy and why
 
Still love mechanical (noisy) things hey just TRY and take my Kubota diesel tractor away from me. I dare ya. It won't end well :D But OTOH, on other equipment I've gone battery electric and love that just as much, same with my car. BTW, that car takes me back to driving a mid 60s Pontiac big block V8. Torque for days, quiet and smooth as buttah.
I just get tired of hassling with stuff. I'd rather concentrate on the task at hand. Getting down the road, getting delish Q reliably, etc. The conveniences simply help me accomplish more. YMMV..................now anyone interested in a 38 yo daughter? :D
Bottom line if I won the lottery I would not tell anyone, but, the 1965 GTO, 421 Catalina 2+ 2, and maybe a couple other beauties in the drive might give it away. I haven't sold my soul I'm simply opening my perspectives
 
Totally agree Larry. I too would buy a fully restored '68 Camero Z28 with about 500hp if I won the lottery as on of my first purchases.

And I just recently bought a battery powered Ridgid chain saw. Never would I have thought I would do something like that. But I just tired of fiddling with gas, mixing it with 2 cycle oil, yanking the starter rope a dozen times to start it, having to winterize it, trouble shoot it just to use it maybe one or two times a year. No, I won't be felling and cutting up 75 foot oak trees with it, but I don't need it for that. Just some trimming and small tree work.
I am considering the same for a weedeater. I only weed eat a few times a summer, and get tired of dealing with the same issues as on a gas chain saw. I would much rather slap in a battery and start weed eating and winterization entails a little cleaning and removing the battery. The "green" aspect is not a consideration for me. It is all about convenience for me.
 
Bruce said:
Totally agree Larry. I too would buy a fully restored '68 Camero Z28 with about 500hp if I won the lottery as on of my first purchases.

And I just recently bought a battery powered Ridgid chain saw. Never would I have thought I would do something like that. But I just tired of fiddling with gas, mixing it with 2 cycle oil, yanking the starter rope a dozen times to start it, having to winterize it, trouble shoot it just to use it maybe one or two times a year. No, I won't be felling and cutting up 75 foot oak trees with it, but I don't need it for that. Just some trimming and small tree work.
I am considering the same for a weedeater. I only weed eat a few times a summer, and get tired of dealing with the same issues as on a gas chain saw. I would much rather slap in a battery and start weed eating and winterization entails a little cleaning and removing the battery. The "green" aspect is not a consideration for me. It is all about convenience for me.
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EXACTLY! Which is why I bought also, battery powered walk behind Toro mower, using same batteries for Toro snow blower as well, and dumped my large noisy blower for DeWalt and same with string trimmer which both use the same battery packs as my DeWalt power tools and grease gun.
Tech has come a loooooong way in making life easier and better.
 
I just like the fact that a lot of older stuff was built to last and not be disposable which is what the world has adapted to. I know there's good and there's bad in everything. I don't reject technology. I just prefer simpler things for the most part. Stuff without cheap electrical parts that don't last. Obviously this doesn't apply to everything sold today.
 
Yah, I am a Ridgid guy and have a good selection of batteries, so, I try to stick to Ridgid battery powered tools. It makes me mad that all the companies are so proprietary though. Battery interchangeability with tools for other companies would be nice as long as they were the same voltage.
 
Josh Dekubber said:
I just like the fact that a lot of older stuff was built to last and not be disposable which is what the world has adapted to. I know there's good and there's bad in everything. I don't reject technology. I just prefer simpler things for the most part. Stuff without cheap electrical parts that don't last. Obviously this doesn't apply to everything sold today.
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This is me exactly. I mean, heck I'm on my phone typing this whole using Bose earbuds for ear protection while listening to music and fitness/health podcasts daily. I use chat gpt daily. I have a nest thermometer. I just have some things that I really prefer simple.
 
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