I will just leave this here


 
Cody Bratton said:
I also feel like the Weber gas kettle lid handles were noticeably taller... or am I crazy?
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We had both a charcoal kettle and gas kettle from the same time era (late 70's early/mid 80s) and handles were the same. The gas kettle though had circumferential venting non adjustable unlike the charcoal kettle. I guess if you like a "time capsule" sort of thing it's OK, but as an actual grill? They were awful grills. There is a good reason they were so short lived and Weber pulled all support for them so quickly
 
LMichaels said:
We had both a charcoal kettle and gas kettle from the same time era (late 70's early/mid 80s) and handles were the same. The gas kettle though had circumferential venting non adjustable unlike the charcoal kettle. I guess if you like a "time capsule" sort of thing it's OK, but as an actual grill? They were awful grills. There is a good reason they were so short lived and Weber pulled all support for them so quickly
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Definitely more of a collector/memorabilia type grill.
 
LMichaels said:
I would think/hope so. As I have to say it certainly was not a pleasurable experience cooking on or caring for one
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Now that tax season is over, I am hoping to find someone to cut the stainless dish I bought to fabricate a replacement diffuser.
Comparison of rusted old diffuser with stainless plate.JPEG
Then I hope to post some cooks using the “direct” and “indirect” methods and real kava rocks. I think it will be fun to give a modern take on this “Edsel” of Weber’s history.
 
Brenda T said:
Beautiful Cado, Jon - but it needs a spiffy Zav handle!
Just teasing! 😀 Vintage looks great too.

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That's a real beauty, Brenda! I got mine from a serious collector (Michael Militello) near me in central Indiana. He sold me both the 18 in the picture and a 22. They are both Patent Pending and are less than perfect but very nice in my book. Having an avocado was a dream of mine, so I was VERY happy to get them both! Michael is a very careful restorer who subscribes to keeping as much original as possible. While the handle on the 18 is obviously worn, he kept it because it still has its original rivets intact. I am a little more liberal myself, and since the 18 is just an office display item, I am toying with doing a small amount of touch up painting and maybe even replace the handle. Brian O'Neil's (Zavod) work is awesome. He owes me a special handle for my CharQ, though, that I hope he will get to completion really soon!

I fully intend on USING the 22 :smilekettle: .
 
The diffuser is stationary. It sits on top of small holder with legs that point up to hold it. The burner goes up and down. The top of the burner has a wider flange and below that is the opening, which rather than having holes is just one thin opening that goes all the way around. When the burner is down, it rests on the diffuser and the opening is below the diffuser. So, the flame has to spread out underneath the diffuser in a wide pattern. This was supposed to make an indirect heat for doing pork shoulders, etc. with a drip pan wedged between the lava rocks.

When the burner is in the up position, the opening is above the diffuser, so the flames are in a smaller, concentrated heat source in the center. I guess this was supposed to be hotter as it was higher up. They apparently counted on the lava rocks to then spread the heat across the grill for "direct" grilling of stuff like burgers.
 
Jon Tofte said:
That's a real beauty, Brenda! I got mine from a serious collector (Michael Militello) near me in central Indiana. He sold me both the 18 in the picture and a 22. They are both Patent Pending and are less than perfect but very nice in my book. Having an avocado was a dream of mine, so I was VERY happy to get them both! Michael is a very careful restorer who subscribes to keeping as much original as possible. While the handle on the 18 is obviously worn, he kept it because it still has its original rivets intact. I am a little more liberal myself, and since the 18 is just an office display item, I am toying with doing a small amount of touch up painting and maybe even replace the handle. Brian O'Neil's (Zavod) work is awesome. He owes me a special handle for my CharQ, though, that I hope he will get to completion really soon!

I fully intend on USING the 22 :smilekettle: .
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Thank you, Jon!
I understand, the wait can feel like being a kid on Christmas Eve, but it's always worth it. :giggle:
He's working on something for me too - tho not handles. Now that I know you and Josh, at minimum, are also in line, I'll cool my jets. LOL

Show us pics of what you cook in the 22, when you get to it! You'll be keeping up Michael's tradition - I believe he cooks in ALL of his.
 
Jon Tofte said:
The diffuser is stationary. It sits on top of small holder with legs that point up to hold it. The burner goes up and down. The top of the burner has a wider flange and below that is the opening, which rather than having holes is just one thin opening that goes all the way around. When the burner is down, it rests on the diffuser and the opening is below the diffuser. So, the flame has to spread out underneath the diffuser in a wide pattern. This was supposed to make an indirect heat for doing pork shoulders, etc. with a drip pan wedged between the lava rocks.

When the burner is in the up position, the opening is above the diffuser, so the flames are in a smaller, concentrated heat source in the center. I guess this was supposed to be hotter as it was higher up. They apparently counted on the lava rocks to then spread the heat across the grill for "direct" grilling of stuff like burgers.
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Ok, so it sounds like in theory it was a bad idea, however the execution and results failed miserably?
 
In my never ending quest to make grills great again, and desire to try new things and tinker I decided to try painting a horrible looking, and deeply stained plastic end cap. I think it turned out great, and the color may just be a dead nuts match. Rustoleum 2X - in Granite w/ Satin finish.

Once it’s fully dry I’m tempted to try and scratch it up to see if it sticks well. I didn’t use the normal adhesion promoter that I use. I have one other that is junk that I’m thinking I’ll try it on and compare the two.
 

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