I will just leave this here


 
Thinking about it brought this subject to mind, probably common knowledge around here:

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Kingsford (charcoal) - Wikipedia

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By the mid-1930s, Ford was marketing "Picnic Kits" containing charcoal and portable grills at Ford dealerships, capitalizing on the link between motoring and outdoor adventure that his own Vagabond travels popularized. "Enjoy a modern picnic," the package suggested. "Sizzling broiled meats, steaming coffee, toasted sandwiches." It wasn’t until after World War II that backyard barbecuing took off, thanks to suburban migration, the invention of the Weber grill and the marketing efforts. An investment group bought Ford Charcoal in 1951 and renamed it to Kingsford Charcoal in honor of Edward G. Kingsford (and the factory's home-base name) and took over the operations. The plant was later acquired by Clorox in 1973.[6]
 
John, I am not a coal burner and I have never heard that story. But it is a very interesting tidbit of history for grilling fans.
 
Years (MANY years) ago my dad had one exactly like it. Much as he tried everything off it was burned to a crisp and tasted like diesel/kerosene. We all smiled and told him how good it was
 
John_NJ said:
Saw this and thought it was interesting.

I vaguely remember this from my childhood, but not certain

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Vintage 1958 Ford Charcoal Grill - collectibles - by owner - sale

Vintage 1958 Ford Charcoal Grill. This was a Ford giveaway when you bought a car. Brand new in the box.
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The timing of the selling of this seems to coincide with the marketing of the Edsel. Maybe this was intended to keep the driver occupied while waiting for the tow truck...

"Sell! Sell! Sell the Edsel! A free barbeque with every purchase!" The barbeque lasted longer than the car did.
 
So this after a bit of painting frustration. I decided to roll with it. And here is the result:PXL_20220801_130752686.jpgPXL_20220801_141723116.jpgPXL_20220801_141751772.jpgPXL_20220801_141832314.jpgPXL_20220801_141754973.jpgPXL_20220801_141922519.jpg

I'm thinking of listing it for $250 with the option to add new flavor bars and stainless rod grates for $100. What do you guys think? Is that too steep?
 
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Looks very nice. Price seems very fair to me. I will be interested in what reactions you get to the "add-on" idea for the grates and bars. I know Bruce has reported that this strategy hasn't worked all that well for him, even though most retailers do some version of it!
 
I think $250 is reasonable, but then again I've done what you did before and I'd happily pay a couple hundred bucks for somebody else to do it! That said, it all depends on what people are paying for in your area. It does look nice though, and I'm sure it will last five or ten years without any need for anything except food!
 
Jon Tofte said:
Looks very nice. Price seems very fair to me. I will be interested in what reactions you get to the "add-on" idea for the grates and bars. I know Bruce has reported that this strategy hasn't worked all that well for him, even though most retailers do some version of it!
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So it's better to list it for $325-350 with the new stuff out just leave it out of the listing all together?
 
Yep, location and market is a key in determining you selling prices. I have found that if you do the options thing, buyers love the idea of the upgrades, but never like the price to do so. They tend to want the grill with the upgrades at the same price as without the upgrades. I have gone to simply doing the upgrades and selling them that way with the higher price on the listing.
Two points to that approach however is that if you have quality grates or burners that are in good shape and can be cleaned up to LIKE NEW condition, then replacing them isn't necessary. But when a buyer sees a rehabbed grill, they want something more than a "cleaned up" grill. If you clean CI or SS solid rod grates up to look virtually new, then you are good. Flavorizer bars are very hard to clean up to near new looking condition. That being said, a well cleaned up grill with "serviceable" grates, burners and flavorizer bars is a valid offering, however, I just find that when you wan't more than the run of the road "used" grill prices, it needs to be clearly a step up. That is not how I personally see it, because a few cooks in and the grill is all gunked up anyway. But, just what I find with how buyers see it.
 
I agree with Bruce. Once you name a number in sales, that is the number. If you already have the new grates and flavorizers, I'd add them and increase the asking price. It is almost impossible to put two prices out there and get the higher one, even if the higher price includes extras. People like freebies.
 
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I think you will have a tough time selling the grill without new guts for more than $300.
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I was going to list it at $250 with only new burners drip pan and igniter. I guess I could try $330 or so with all new guts and hopefully break $275 on the sale. That would net about $150 for the effort
 
Anyone have feedback on what would be a "fair" price to buy this Performer for?

Needs new igniter.
Looks to be in good condition.

Thanks.
 

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I am no expert on those grills but I am pretty sure the wood table is not original. I don't think they every came with wood. Unless you have a stock table, probably thermoset, I would not pay much for it.

Is the grill for your own personal use or for rehabbing and flipping?
 
Bruce said:
I am no expert on those grills but I am pretty sure the wood table is not original. I don't think they every came with wood. Unless you have a stock table, probably thermoset, I would not pay much for it.

Is the grill for your own personal use or for rehabbing and flipping?
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Ah, gotcha. Good to know about the wood table. Thanks, I'm not at all interested either way if it's not official Weber parts.
 
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