Josh Dekubber
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The grill that I find in Arizona are definitely quite good most of the time and the ones in Washington are sometimes good and sometimes bad but I would say still above average condition
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BobH-SCW
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Josh is right-most of the grills I see out here are pretty good because of the dry climate. Same reason they store all the mothballed planes down at the Boneyard outside Tucson. My 2002 Silver A came from Ma and before I restored it a lot of the hardware was rusted pretty good, no doubt due to the salt air near the coast. Fl and the SE is even worse-Jon could vouch for that! My A with the new cookbox, Az blue lid and RC grates and bars is my forever grill!
Josh Dekubber
TVWBB Hall of Fame
Definitely one to be proud of! That is a fantastic grill in excellent shape
Your forever grill is a beauty. Really nice job
I’d like to thank all of you for your input on the 450 summit. Yesterday I took a ride out to take look at the grill and I came back empty handed. The grill was in pretty rough shape. It would have cleaned up nicely aesthetically (minus some minor rust on the lid and control panels) but the problem areas I was told and read about were all present. The front plate with the burner tear drop holes were rusted badly in addition to the attachment flanges on the left and right. The back plate and burner holder brackets were in rough shape too. I had concerns about the burners, as well. It was just a little too much to take on.
I have the “the one that got away feeling” going on right now as a tear rolls down my cheek but like they say “everything happens for a reason”. @Bruce ‘s words “these grills can turn into a rabbit hole” echoed in my head as I looked at what could have been. @Josh Dekubber ‘s words “be smart and savvy” also were floating around. I showed self discipline and walked away. This is rare for me. I know I would not have been happy with the final results. I hope I’m not the only one who gets sentimental over a grill. If so, I really do need to get my head examined.
All kidding aside, I’d like to thank all of you for the what to look for comments and @Jon Tofte ‘s incredible thread on his rehab for insight.
Paul
P.S. the grill was a 1999 and the kid selling it was born in 2000. I thought that was funny.
I have the “the one that got away feeling” going on right now as a tear rolls down my cheek but like they say “everything happens for a reason”. @Bruce ‘s words “these grills can turn into a rabbit hole” echoed in my head as I looked at what could have been. @Josh Dekubber ‘s words “be smart and savvy” also were floating around. I showed self discipline and walked away. This is rare for me. I know I would not have been happy with the final results. I hope I’m not the only one who gets sentimental over a grill. If so, I really do need to get my head examined.
All kidding aside, I’d like to thank all of you for the what to look for comments and @Jon Tofte ‘s incredible thread on his rehab for insight.
Paul
P.S. the grill was a 1999 and the kid selling it was born in 2000. I thought that was funny.
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Took everything I had in me to say NO
I’ll let Jon render final judgment, but I think that unit is salvageable… similar condition to mine that I plan to refurbish one day.
Panels have enough material to reinforce
Burners in decent shape
Hangers and support bracing look to be intact
The keps nuts holding the side panels are what failed on mine as well, allowing the grease trough to drop - I only noticed after grease spilled into my deck
Maybe you can get it for a salvage price?
At minimum, someone here will want the 9930 grates
Don’t do this to me.
. I’ve thought about it and it’s irking me that I did not pick it up. Maybe the pics I sent did not show the overall condition. My heart said yes but my brain said no. The grate had a couple of rods that were disconnected. He wanted $125 but it would have taken quite a bit to get it to a condition that I would be comfortable with and honestly I don’t know what it would have cost to make it right.
Jon Tofte
TVWBB 1-Star Olympian
I think the grill was potentially restorable, but if your brain says “No!” you should listen. And for certain your first hand inspection is a lot more accurate than us looking at some pictures.
If you really want a 1st generation Summit (Who wouldn’t
), you probably will have to accept some rust and deterioration like on that one. The broken grate is a disappointment, though, that you can hopefully avoid on the next one.
There is not likely to be a 1st gen Summit that won’t require a lot of time consuming work and a significant outlay for burners, igniters, flavorizers and reinforcements for the firebox. I mention the last not to promote sales of my stainless parts but to give a realistic assessment of what it took me at least.
The reward would be a powerful, heavy duty grill with tens of pounds of real 304 stainless and a unique classy style unlike any other Weber grill. @LMichaels calls it “Sean Connery in a tux!”
Paul, the right one will come along. Like @Bruce said, “Patience.”
If you really want a 1st generation Summit (Who wouldn’t
), you probably will have to accept some rust and deterioration like on that one. The broken grate is a disappointment, though, that you can hopefully avoid on the next one.There is not likely to be a 1st gen Summit that won’t require a lot of time consuming work and a significant outlay for burners, igniters, flavorizers and reinforcements for the firebox. I mention the last not to promote sales of my stainless parts but to give a realistic assessment of what it took me at least.
The reward would be a powerful, heavy duty grill with tens of pounds of real 304 stainless and a unique classy style unlike any other Weber grill. @LMichaels calls it “Sean Connery in a tux!”
Paul, the right one will come along. Like @Bruce said, “Patience.”
Steve Hoch
TVWBB Olympian
It takes a lot of use/abuse to destroy those heavy stainless steel grates on those grills. I would have walked on that alone and not given it another thought. Junk is junk.
Josh Dekubber
TVWBB Hall of Fame
I think you are right but I did just turn this one down. The 9930s had a busted off bar on the end and 3rd bar in was busted off on one end. Maybe more damage. This one was too rough for me to take. I'm going to be extra picky if I grab a first generation Summit for Restoration.
Josh Dekubber
TVWBB Hall of Fame
I I do have a lead on a second gen summit for good 9930s. I'm in talks with the seller.
I think the grill was potentially restorable, but if your brain says “No!” you should listen. And for certain your first hand inspection is a lot more accurate than us looking at some pictures.
If you really want a 1st generation Summit (Who wouldn’t
There is not likely to be a 1st gen Summit that won’t require a lot of time consuming work and a significant outlay for burners, igniters, flavorizers and reinforcements for the firebox. I mention the last not to promote sales of my stainless parts but to give a realistic assessment of what it took me at least.
The reward would be a powerful, heavy duty grill with tens of pounds of real 304 stainless and a unique classy style unlike any other Weber grill. @LMichaels calls it “Sean Connery in a tux!”
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Paul, the right one will come along. Like @Bruce said, “Patience.”
What you’ve done is absolutely incredible. To be honest, it’s not the work that will have to go into it. It’s more of the unknowns. You bought the grill from Larry and at least he told you what the problems were. This is just a hobby like many of us. I would just hate to get to a point where I get stuck with something that makes it unsalvageable. I’m going to sleep on it and think about it some more.I think the grill was potentially restorable, but if your brain says “No!” you should listen. And for certain your first hand inspection is a lot more accurate than us looking at some pictures.
If you really want a 1st generation Summit (Who wouldn’t
There is not likely to be a 1st gen Summit that won’t require a lot of time consuming work and a significant outlay for burners, igniters, flavorizers and reinforcements for the firebox. I mention the last not to promote sales of my stainless parts but to give a realistic assessment of what it took me at least.
The reward would be a powerful, heavy duty grill with tens of pounds of real 304 stainless and a unique classy style unlike any other Weber grill. @LMichaels calls it “Sean Connery in a tux!”
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Paul, the right one will come along. Like @Bruce said, “Patience.”
that’s in worst shape than the one I looked at for sure. Fortunately for me, for something like a small welding job, I could find someone pretty easy. Go to my neighborhood bar and ask Frank who welds at the Ford plant if he could weld a stainless 3/8 rod back on to bbq grate. Most likely for a six of miller lite I could get it done. I guess I’m just trying to be patient and hopefully the right one will pop up.
Wow that’s beautiful JonI think the grill was potentially restorable, but if your brain says “No!” you should listen. And for certain your first hand inspection is a lot more accurate than us looking at some pictures.
If you really want a 1st generation Summit (Who wouldn’t
There is not likely to be a 1st gen Summit that won’t require a lot of time consuming work and a significant outlay for burners, igniters, flavorizers and reinforcements for the firebox. I mention the last not to promote sales of my stainless parts but to give a realistic assessment of what it took me at least.
The reward would be a powerful, heavy duty grill with tens of pounds of real 304 stainless and a unique classy style unlike any other Weber grill. @LMichaels calls it “Sean Connery in a tux!”
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Paul, the right one will come along. Like @Bruce said, “Patience.”
Josh Dekubber
TVWBB Hall of Fame
I think you're very right to be picky. I definitely am when it comes to something like this. Yeah I'll pick up a parts Grill that's not perfect for a Genesis 1000 many times over and I'd pick up one of these first generation summits in less than perfect condition for parts if I already had a nice one to start with. I have several nice projects ahead of me already so I'm not hurting for a project or rushing into anything that's not right. If I were you I would hold out for a nice one and if the right one comes along then pull the trigger. If you already have a nice one and a grill for parts comes along I would be less picky. That's just me though. Just my opinion. If you do decide to pull the trigger on one there's an abundance of people here that are highly qualified and can help you if you get stuck and it sounds like you have connections for welding/welder so I think you'd be fine no matter what you decide.