This was my first time using a pan but it helped them keep that rolled up shape and they braised in their own drippings. By 170 the thighs were pretty much submerged in the drippings. Next time I will take them out of the pan probably 165 range or maybe even 160 as several of these overshot my 180 temp mark waiting for the skin to crisp. I will link the pans I got but I was worried about clean up but these are truly non stick. This was just hitting them with some hot water.Wow, Preston. Those might be the best thighs I've ever seen (on a chicken, at least). What's the advantage of the loaf pans? Moisture retention? Love that cook and that technique...thank you.