This in my new product idea for the WSK


 
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Travis_L

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Hows everyone doing? I wanted to share a product I have had living in my mind for the past couple months.
This morning I sent this email SNS grills explaining this new product Idea and I thought I would like to share my idea here also.
That way any questions that come up I may have an answer for.

Hello David and the rest of the SNS team,

My name is Travis Lucas,

On Instagram @grilling_with_redbeard. Anyway I'm on a mission.
I recently sold off my Primo Xl for the Weber Summit E6. I have had very successful cooks on this thing in every configuration. That being said I really like the work flow of the SNS Low Profile. I use that thing easily 80% of the time. I understand the SNS turns the Summit into a top down cooker. It doesn't seem to be quite as effective as its use in a kettle with an offset vent, to direct the airflow over the meat before exiting the top vent. At least that is a point made by James of Smoking Dad BBQ. His point being the smoke becoming stale and giving his cooking a stagnant smoke profile. Again I'm not onboard with this. I use the SNS alot. I do however think I have a product in mind that I think can really ramp up the smoke quality as well as being a perfect compliment to your already fantastic product. I'd like to try to describe it to you and I will try to do that here. I'm happy to speak on the phone if you would like further clarification. So I came up with this Idea Watching a Brisket cook on Smoking Dad BBQ. He used a DoeJoe in A Kamado Joe Big Joe to "improve airflow" which looked like a lot of work but offered up great results. So here's what I'm thinking.
Please try to imagine a wedge shape like a DoeJoe or a rotisserie
but the difference being on the front there is a kamado style vent control used to effectively negate using the dome's exhaust vent.
So how I envision this set up would be I would install the SNS Low Profile On the hinge side of the grill. I would then utilize the easy spin grate however I would remove the hinged portion for easier charcoal access. By doing this at least in my mind's eye I would retain the ability to open the dome and tend to my cook as easily as before, unlike Smoking Dad's implementation of a DoeJoe. As well as I would have greater temp control through that kamado style vent control and superior airflow with the smoke being drawn over the meat to exit a vent that is basically at grate level, very much like an offset smoker. I hope you take a moment to read this over. If I can help further clarify any part of my idea please give me a call ***-***-****.
 
I wish I possessed the talent to illustrate my concept. If there are any users here that can see the mental picture I am trying to create that do have some ability with design illustration and photoshop skills I could sure use your help.
 
I am trying to understand.

I added a picture of an SNS. and Ignoring the location of the hinge in the pic, you want the SNS coal to the back of the WSK. The grate will be open above the SNS coal area And, you want the exhaust vent located at the front between the upper lid and base.

(edited as it was confusing as written)

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I think I understand what you are suggesting, but I'm not seeing how a vent out the front between lid and dome will change things for the better.

When I smoke there is no shortage of smoke inside of the WSK. It fills the entire smoker, and wafts out the top vent. If I close the top vent too much I'll get creosote forming so the smoker needs to breath.

I smoke on my large BGE and my WSK and I can get plenty of smoke flavor when I set it up properly.
 
As a decently long time WSK user, I don't see any use or need for a SNS on the WSK.

The WSK from the factory is super versatile. And it can produce massive smoke, if that's what you want. You just need to set it up with enough wood and fuel.

IMO, there's zero need to give up valuable cooking square inches on the cook grate to house a SNS.

You can build super hot sears with CB's and JD Chunxx at the center circle of the grill. Just add a CI center grate and you can paint all the lines you desire (lines don't equal char, they're just pretty).

I'm open to understand what you're proposing but please start with the end result and work backwards. As in, "I want to smoke then sear a rib eye or tri tip," or "I want to serve seared rare salmon."

To me, the only thing I see I might use is a rotisserie for the WSK. Otherwise, I already have all grounds covered and with excellent success.
 
Thanks Brett, your picture illustrates the way I’d set it up, I don’t see the need for a whole “Rube Goldberg” design for something which while might be fun, isn’t really necessary.


BTW, how do you keep your “guts” that clean? Foil wrap, full steel wool scrub down after each cook?
 
I see where you are coming from and yes it may not be a needed accessory but I believe it will be a helpful one.
The concept is to have more moving air and the smoke to flow over the meat before exiting the grill at grate level.
I have had many good cooks on my WSK up to this point. that being said my PK classic is amazing at low and slow and to it credit I believe the way the smoke flows has so much to do with that. Combine that with simplified charcoal and wood chunk management I think this is a product worth exploring. Here is a concept drawing sorry it sucks and I couldn't rotate the page properly.
 

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I think the SNS is overrated anyway. But you could easily put the two char baskets on the upper charcoal rack and if they had a dojoe for the E6, it would do what you are looking for.

I think the best thing is vortex on the E6. works great and the extra area versus 22 is perfect for larger food quantity.
 
Thanks Brett, your picture illustrates the way I’d set it up, I don’t see the need for a whole “Rube Goldberg” design for something which while might be fun, isn’t really necessary.


BTW, how do you keep your “guts” that clean? Foil wrap, full steel wool scrub down after each cook?

If you are asking about the pic above, it is one I copy/pasted from SNS's website which is why it is so clean.
 
I think the SNS is overrated anyway. But you could easily put the two char baskets on the upper charcoal rack and if they had a dojoe for the E6, it would do what you are looking for.

I think the best thing is vortex on the E6. works great and the extra area versus 22 is perfect for larger food quantity.
The Doe Joe is the root of my idea. Yes you could without a slow n sear or a !/2 rack but I am trying to get help developing it from SNS so having it integrate into their system might help to make that happen.
 
This is a 8-9 hour brisket indirect setup:

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Racks of lamb with some oak setup:

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Porchetta indirect higher heat setup, around 350-400F cook.

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High heat direct seared kabobs:

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Vortex wing party

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A whole lotta smoke wood:

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Home ground burger party:

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Pichana on swords over direct fire

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Readying for tri tip over live fire

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Putting on the hard sear on some NY steaks

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This is a 8-9 hour brisket indirect setup:

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Racks of lamb with some oak setup:

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Porchetta indirect higher heat setup, around 350-400F cook.

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High heat direct seared kabobs:

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Vortex wing party

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A whole lotta smoke wood:

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Home ground burger party:

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Pichana on swords over direct fire

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Readying for tri tip over live fire

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Putting on the hard sear on some NY steaks

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Looks great man I really dig the upside down charcoal baskets. I haven't seen that. I also use the Vortex it makes amazing chicken wings and probably more. The thing is none of these set ups improve convective airflow giving more of an Offset like experience. I think what I am trying to design could be that. I'm not here to say anyone is wrong and I am currently using my Summit in similiar ways. I just have this idea and think it could offer some advantages. No hate on what works man clearly you're eating well.
 
I see where you are coming from and yes it may not be a needed accessory but I believe it will be a helpful one.
The concept is to have more moving air and the smoke to flow over the meat before exiting the grill at grate level.
I have had many good cooks on my WSK up to this point. that being said my PK classic is amazing at low and slow and to it credit I believe the way the smoke flows has so much to do with that. Combine that with simplified charcoal and wood chunk management I think this is a product worth exploring. Here is a concept drawing sorry it sucks and I couldn't rotate the page properly.
Sorry, I’ve tried four methods to open your link but, no luck.
I wish you the best of luck with your project!
 
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