Random socket set question


 
I saw a video on YouTube from the "History Guy" that talked about the evolution of screws. The Robertson screw seemed like a much better option than Phillips head screws but never took off here. I hate Phillips screws, they strip far too easy
Yes Phillips are soft at the center and even more so with stainless ones. There have been a few very good improvements , square drive, Roberson, to name a few, and many others that did not go well, coin slot(high torques) ,Tork , a English screw used on the Hawker aircraft using offset Phillip type blades.
Most important equal presure, and a good bit no wear shown. And change often if you are installing a couple hundred at a time.
 
:ROFLMAO: Now that takes me back to the old Petter diesels I worked on. Damn near bomb-proof. Once it fired up it would chug along, all day long, happy as a pig in ****! Happy days.
Yup... I was going to throw Whitworth in there... I use Whitworth tools on my "Listeroid" diesel. It's a copy of the English Lister CS, right down to the Whitworth fasteners.

-John (Boston)
 
I saw a video on YouTube from the "History Guy" that talked about the evolution of screws. The Robertson screw seemed like a much better option than Phillips head screws but never took off here. I hate Phillips screws, they strip far too easy
Blame Henry Ford. He determined that switching to Robertson screws would have saved considerable production costs and time to build Ford Model T cars. Naturally he was interested. The problem was patent licensing issues, so Henry chose Phillips screws instead. And the rest is history, as they say.
 
Blame Henry Ford. He determined that switching to Robertson screws would have saved considerable production costs and time to build Ford Model T cars. Naturally he was interested. The problem was patent licensing issues, so Henry chose Phillips screws instead. And the rest is history, as they say.
Wondering if it could have been be be a later model car? All of the Model T Fords I have worked on (and there have been many of them) had straight slot screws. The earlier ones had quite a few wood screws and some machine screws. The later cars that had starters had even more straight slot machine screws, some with special heads.

Henry's favorite fasteners on the T were 3/8 hex head bolts and castle nuts. Pretty near every nut and bolt on the car had a cotter key or was safety wired. Even the oil tail light had a cotter key. The car was an amazing piece of engineering.

-John (Boston)
 
Wondering if it could have been be be a later model car? All of the Model T Fords I have worked on (and there have been many of them) had straight slot screws. The earlier ones had quite a few wood screws and some machine screws. The later cars that had starters had even more straight slot machine screws, some with special heads.

Henry's favorite fasteners on the T were 3/8 hex head bolts and castle nuts. Pretty near every nut and bolt on the car had a cotter key or was safety wired. Even the oil tail light had a cotter key. The car was an amazing piece of engineering.

-John (Boston)
I can't argue with your experience working on Model T cars. My experience with Model Ts is admiring them on display at shows. I do fact checks before posting, and used this source when I posted about testing Robertson screws on the Model T above:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robertson_screw#Licensing

After I saw your post, I searched more, and found this article, which states that the phillips screw was developed in 1930. The Model T ceased production in 1927:
https://obportland.org/the-cursed-phillips-screw/
See also:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Model_T
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_screw_drives#Phillips
 
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I bought this all in one kit years ago before Sears closed down.
Standard and metric in a convenient case, handy to have when going to help friends or family. I prefer to bring my tools as it’s less frustrating.
 
I can't argue with your experience working on Model T cars. My experience with Model Ts is admiring them on display at shows. I do fact checks before posting, and used this source when I posted about testing Robertson screws on the Model T above:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robertson_screw#Licensing

After I saw your post, I searched more, and found this article, which states that the phillips screw was developed in 1930. The Model T ceased production in 1927:
https://obportland.org/the-cursed-phillips-screw/
See also:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Model_T
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_screw_drives#Phillips
Interesting read about Robertson screws in Canadian built Model T Fords. Yep, 1927 was the end of the T. As much as I love those cars I will say that, by 1927, they were a bit of an outdated dinosaur in the auto world. It really was time for retirement.

How could I have worked on so many Model T Fords? Heh Heh... Naaah, I'm not quite *that* old...
I worked for a Model T parts dealer in the early 90's. We bought and sold tons of used and NOS parts as well as reproduction parts. We also bought and sold a good many complete cars, which I got to work on.

-John (Boston)
 
I have a couple of travel kits like this, but my problem is after working aircraft for 45 plus years I have a large collection of tools SAE, Metric,Structural, etc mostly Snap On and Mac Tools with a few Craftsman. Plus special tools,and home made tools for one off jobs.
They take up a large area to store.
 

 

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