News Flash, To Me, Smokefire Has Auto Relight.


 

Lew Newby

R.I.P. 1/26/2024
Since I bought my Smokefire in June 2020 I have thought that the Smokefire did not have auto relight. I was told that the glow plug only energizes during startup. It was pointed out that as of the software upgrade, April 2020, the grill has auto relight. Today I set up a test flameout and, sure enough - when the grill sent an alert that the temp had dropped, I checked the glowplug and it was bright red. Who knew?
 
Since I bought my Smokefire in June 2020 I have thought that the Smokefire did not have auto relight. I was told that the glow plug only energizes during startup. It was pointed out that as of the software upgrade, April 2020, the grill has auto relight. Today I set up a test flameout and, sure enough - when the grill sent an alert that the temp had dropped, I checked the glowplug and it was bright red. Who knew?
Well that did not happen with mine last summer. I had all the updates done and it had gone out and found the fire cup overflowing with pellets but no fire. Had to scoop them all out and start from scratch.
 
Well that did not happen with mine last summer. I had all the updates done and it had gone out and found the fire cup overflowing with pellets but no fire. Had to scoop them all out and start from scratch.
Joe, I got to see that for the first time as well. My glow plug was glowing but no pellets were flowing. I’ve seen a lot of pictures of what you described. I had cut off pellet flow and released them and put a few in the fire pot but the glow plug had already shut off. I watched as the fire pot and slide filled up with pellets. My thought has always been that the mess is caused by pellet bridging that collapses too late to reignite.
 
I had same issue last week. Build was in Aug 2021. What does the auto relight help if additional pellets are NOT getting into the fire pot while the glow plug is reheating ??? Then too many pellets dump in too, causing thick white smoke to come billowing out
 

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I had same issue last week. Build was in Aug 2021. What does the auto relight help if additional pellets are NOT getting into the fire pot while the glow plug is reheating ??? Then too many pellets dump in too, causing thick white smoke to come billowing out
It doesn’t help. I put UHMW tape on my hopper floor so my pellets keep flowing. I just did the test to understand how auto relight works. Verifying what I guessed is the cause of the pellet mess at the fire pot was a bonus. I had only seen that in pics. My grill is a Jan 2020 build without the hopper insert upgrade.
 
Man, I kept thinking about grabbing an EX-4 while the $200 off was in effect. And, I see both EX-4s and 6s lightly used and for sale for even less. I get tempted (other than having to get more fallout at home), but then I keep reading what you guys post...I have never had ANY of these issues with my Recteq, and just the other day before doing some bbq chicken I looked over the insides. Everything looks so solid, nothing like what Bruno sadly posted.

Why couldn't Weber have followed through on their innovative design ideas with adequate testing, simpler software that just lets you cook, and, most of all, solid materials that will last more than 2 or 3 years?

I still want one, but I have trepidation, and my eyes are open wide :confused: .
 
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Why couldn't Weber have followed through on their innovative design ideas with adequate testing, simpler software that just lets you cook, and, most of all, solid materials that will last more than 2 or 3 years?
Interesting question adequate testing probably would have cost them a grilling season which if you look back now would have been worth it, correct me if I am wrong but June did the software big difference designing software that works on an oven inside your house than a outdoor grill subjected to extreme swings in outside temps or wind or whatever not to mention a much larger unit to control. Solid materials would drive up the cost so selling grills for 799 and 999 might not have worked for them or maybe it goes back to adequate testing and discovering those parts would not hold up under heavy high heat use which was supposed to be the selling point or innovation or whatever you want to call it.

Can't imagine what replacing all these parts at no charge is costing them the shipping alone which those prices have gone up would cost you a good bit and having customer reps time dealing with these issues

Sometimes innovation can kill you if not done correctly. I did a Spatchcock Turkey for Thanksgiving on my UDS I built maybe 14 years ago I repaint it every 3 years or so still runs like a top with the original plated grate but since its only used as a smoker they have no rust and look as good as they did when I installed them. Dialed the thing in at 345 and 3 hours later my 14 pound turkey was done drinking wine with my relatives using the Maverick to monitor the temp while watching football. Breast 2:45 cut the drumsticks off cooked them another 15 minutes. Plenty of smoke flavor with 3 small chunks of wood need to be careful in my house also wife not a big fan of to much smoke. Sometimes simple is better the UDS is not a beauty queen but she works and even though its 14 years old still not rusted thru anywhere and when she does a Weber Kamado will replace it although I have the feeling it will run another 10 years.
 
Man, I kept thinking about grabbing an EX-4 while the $200 off was in effect. And, I see both EX-4s and 6s lightly used and for sale for even less. I get tempted (other than having to get more fallout at home), but then I keep reading what you guys post...I have never had ANY of these issues with my Recteq, and just the other day before doing some bbq chicken I looked over the insides. Everything looks so solid, nothing like what Bruno sadly posted.

Why couldn't Weber have followed through on their innovative design ideas with adequate testing, simpler software that just lets you cook, and, most of all, solid materials that will last more than 2 or 3 years?

I still want one, but I have trepidation, and my eyes are open wide :confused: .
Jon, it sounds like you need to have a discussion with Rich Dahl. His grill costs 600 bucks and sounds like the backup pellet grill you would be happy with and get a warranty as well. Yeah, I'm happy with my Smokefire but there are times when it makes me think fast and work a little to finish a cook. Like you, I don't like seeing the metal erosion I'm seeing posted.
 
Man, I kept thinking about grabbing an EX-4 while the $200 off was in effect. And, I see both EX-4s and 6s lightly used and for sale for even less. I get tempted (other than having to get more fallout at home), but then I keep reading what you guys post...I have never had ANY of these issues with my Recteq, and just the other day before doing some bbq chicken I looked over the insides. Everything looks so solid, nothing like what Bruno sadly posted.

Why couldn't Weber have followed through on their innovative design ideas with adequate testing, simpler software that just lets you cook, and, most of all, solid materials that will last more than 2 or 3 years?

I still want one, but I have trepidation, and my eyes are open wide :confused: .
If you have to answer why to your own question you just answered it for yourself.Sale prices don’t mean good price’s. Look at what your buying and go from there. I like Weber stuff and have bought many. Doesn’t mean everything they make is good. Just my opinion.
 
I’m happy with my Smokefire, no regrets really. Had a temp loss about two weeks ago that required the kettle fired up as back up, but it’s a solid unit. Will see how it gets through its first winter here to tell the story.
 
It doesn’t help. I put UHMW tape on my hopper floor so my pellets keep flowing. I just did the test to understand how auto relight works. Verifying what I guessed is the cause of the pellet mess at the fire pot was a bonus. I had only seen that in pics. My grill is a Jan 2020 build without the hopper insert upgrade.
Have found a solution to this problem? I am currently working with Weber to solve a temperature drop when searing a steak. I get up to the searing temp put on the steak then the temp drops. the burn pot is always overflowed with pellets. I did a deep clean this past weekend but have not seared a steak you. I did a spatchcocked chicken yesterday with no problems.
 
More and more evidence seems to point to the SmokeFire being a great, if sometimes temperamental, low and slow smoker that can produce great bbq results.

If you want to sear a steak, buy a $50 old Genesis and use a smoker tube or box it you want. Don't wreck your SmokeFire - and frustrate yourself - pushing it to do that. Maybe I am wrong, but that's just what I seem to be hearing here.
 
I don’t say this to insinuate that I feel the SF release was a flop, necessarily; I respect comments that we see on the Internet about users’ unpleasant experiences but we really don’t have all of the data. It would be awesome to know the units sold, failure rates, and returns. As a whole, we have experiences with failed launches of a multitude of commodities (including some life-threatening innovations).

Likely, I’m naïve but what I’m mostly curious about right now is if and how Weber responds to warranty claims beyond their published timeframe. It seems they took a bold move to create a unique cooker. Can some of us agree with and commend them on that attempt? Heck; I was even impressed with the packaging design.

For now, I still enjoy using the SF and haven’t experienced any issues with my second purchase but I’m somewhat odd: I wheel most of my outdoor cookers into the [unfinished] walkout basement between use and I have several units that I use depending on my mood.

I’m cheering for Weber!
 
Charlie,

Good to hear that report! I think everyone here would appreciate another honest assessment with lots of pictures, especially of the components with which some are experiencing early corrosion.
 
I don’t say this to insinuate that I feel the SF release was a flop, necessarily; I respect comments that we see on the Internet about users’ unpleasant experiences but we really don’t have all of the data. It would be awesome to know the units sold, failure rates, and returns. As a whole, we have experiences with failed launches of a multitude of commodities (including some life-threatening innovations).

Likely, I’m naïve but what I’m mostly curious about right now is if and how Weber responds to warranty claims beyond their published timeframe. It seems they took a bold move to create a unique cooker. Can some of us agree with and commend them on that attempt? Heck; I was even impressed with the packaging design.

For now, I still enjoy using the SF and haven’t experienced any issues with my second purchase but I’m somewhat odd: I wheel most of my outdoor cookers into the [unfinished] walkout basement between use and I have several units that I use depending on my mood.

I’m cheering for Weber!
Every grill out there has it's detractors/haters and some of them actually owned the grill they bash. If Weber was going to botch a release 2020 was the worst time to do it. Covid locked down the country, people were at home and did more grilling, Weber's customer service had to switch to remote workers, and the increase in grill usage meant more customer service calls. Many of their people were not adequately trained nor prepared to handle the flood of calls, emails, and other communications. Weber did respond to Smokefire problems and the software is greatly improved over early 2020 but still needs maturing.

My grill hasn't been run above 400 more than 3 hours in 16 months. For the first 8 months I cooked on it at least 2 times a week. My usage is primarily as a smoker but I have cranked it up about 20 times just to test something that I wanted to confirm for myself. When I tested the relight feature I inspected all of my interior components. I have no metal erosion anywhere. I live in central Florida with humidity at 50% or higher year round but I do keep my grill in the garage when I'm not cooking. I'm of the belief that if you assemble it properly, operate it properly, and monitor your cooks then the Smokefire will reward you with excellent tasting food. I am delighted with the interior design and hope I never have to go back to a conventional design pellet grill. I too am very interested in how Weber will deal with problems after the warranty period.
 
Soon enough I will be sporting mostly all new interior parts and I’ll have to rethink the whole 500 degree cooks.
Smoked a butt the other day and the SF was a champ!

Wouldn’t mind Weber extending the warranty to 5 years on internal metal parts. I also don’t think I can justify the Weber cast iron grates I bought because I may not grill on it again. All In All it’s a great smoker, easy and I personally love the app and ease of monitoring cooks.
 

 

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