New Q220, not loving life


 
Chris
I am sorry to hear that you are having problems with your Q200 and you have concern about the side tables. The Q is covered by a 5 year warranty, If you are having trouble with it not getting hot enough call weber CS, You may have a unserviceable regulator. The trick that is mentioned above will reset the safety valve, however if it continues and you do have to do it all the time, the regulator requires replacement. Also check the spider guard to ensure it is not blocked. These are the main causes of 95% of the heat problems. Test out the side tables, they will hold 3 kg (6.5 lb) no problem. Just do not put the load on the edge.

I have owned a Q220 for over 8 years and a baby q for 2 years without a problem, I have demonstrated cooking on them for Weber (Australia) for 7 years of a Saturday between end of September and end of December each year (Our prime BBQ purchasing season.) So I guess that I can speak with some autority on them.

Cheers
 
I have a Q220 .Does this procedure of 'having to release the gas very slowly when you start up' apply everytime you use it as mine doesn't seem to want to go up to full temp. Does everyone have to do this or is it just a select few who have dodgy regulators ? Just fired it up and taken 12 mins to get to 500F and 20 mins to get to 550F which it seems is where its maxed out. Does this sound right ? This was by turning on the regulator really slowly over a minute. Do the new regulators fix this safety cut out problem or is this something i will have to live with ? This is a fairly new Q only used about half a dozen times or so.
 
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Dave try this test. Use the grill with a small bottle. Does the grill heat normally? If so you have either a bad 20 lb tank or hose or both
 
Thanks for the reply. Not sure i want to go out and spend more cash on another bottle. Perhaps i should just get in touch with Weber as its under warranty and hopefully someone can come and look at it. I take those temp times aren't brilliant then ?
 
They aren't really "bad". I think mine gets to 550-600 in about 8 to 10 min or so. Never timed it. I basically turn on my grill, prep my food, than cook. Heck the big Wolf I have doesn't even have a thermo.
 
i turn off the gas at the grill first and then turn off the tank. i normally don't have to wait long at all to start mine. best is to turn on the tank as soon as you think you are going to cook. mine gets to 500 quick enough. i usually turn the temp down till i'm cookin at about 400.
as to the tables, i use two small pieces of bamboo to support them and it works great. the lenghs are short enough to fit under the lid when packed up.
 
A few brass fittings from Home Depot and a (Non Weber Item) and the 20Lb gas can will never be a problem for your Q220
again. Firing to 500* no problem.

I had to cook for 8 people on a snowboard trip to Mammoth last year and never had a problem with my Q220,
but the night I had to cook my Q220 would not light using the 20lb can, tried the small gas cans after that and no go.

Went and bought a smokey Joe and had a midnight dinner i will never live down.

If you want the fix let me know.
 
Dave,

I have a Q100 and experienced the same low heat problems you have. It did it with the large bottle but not the small bottle. What I found is by googling “Weber adapter hose problems” you will find a lot of information about this issue, apparently the regulator on the Qs can be finicky and that’s coming from Weber itself. What I’ve been doing is going out and turn the tank on slowly and wait about a minuet then light the grill and it hasn’t failed once since I started doing that.
Hope that helps and good luck
 
Chris, if you are looking for a full time gasser, watch craigslist for a Genesis Gold C or D, all S/S and a great
QUALITY Weber.
 
This will get your Q220 working every time using the 20LB gas can.
No more Regulator problems.

The parts you will need cost about $23.00 at Home Depot, but well worth it. Basically you take off the Weber
Regulator, put teflon tape on the two brass fittings and connect them together.

Screw the brass fitting to where the weber regulator was and connect the the new regulator.

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Yup that's what I did to the one I gave daughter. Works like a champ. Only downside is it's not "portable" any more. But she don't care
 
http://www.weberindia.com/support/faq/faq.aspx?id=1

I should have put this in but I couldn’t find it again until now. The bold section explains why they work fine with the small bottles.
This is from the Weber web site it explains what’s happening and how to fix it but not why it’s such a problem with the Qs. It does appear that it is the regulator shutting down

Frequently Asked Questions My LPG gas grill won't get hotter than 120 to 150 ℃, even with all burners on high. Why?


Since 1995 all regulators (the part that attaches to the gas cylinder to regulate the flow of gas) have included a safety device that restricts the flow of gas in the event of a gas leak. This safety device can be inadvertently activated in two ways, putting the grill into what is commonly called “bypass”. The first way for the device to be activated is to leave one or more burner control knobs in the “ON” position when the LP cylinder valve is opened. The second is not to wait long enough to “start” the grill after opening the LP cylinder valve. The safety device in the regulator is activated each time that the LP cylinder valve is opened. The device resets itself when the gas pressure equalizes between the closed burner control valve and the regulator, through the hose. If a burner control knob is turned on before the gas pressure can equalize, the device will remain in “bypass”. The length of time necessary to wait to “start” the grill after turning on the LP cylinder valve is dependent on the length of the hose and outside air temperature. It is always good practice to wait a few seconds after opening the LP cylinder valve before turning on the burner control knob to start the grill.

Keep in mind that the safety device reacts to a gas leak. If a grill is in bypass, the gas connections and hose should be tested for leaks with a soap and water solution.

If the grill is in bypass, after checking for gas leaks, do the following to get the grill out of bypass:

•The Weber Q100, Weber Baby Q, Weber Q200, and Weber Q cannot go into bypass when used as sold.
•When using an adapter hose with the Weber Q/Baby Q grills, the grill CAN go into bypass just like any other LP grill.

Follow these steps to correct it:

Close the LPG cylinder valve
•Turn all burner control knobs to the OFF position
•Now, start the grill by doing the following:
•Open the grill lid
•Turn the LPG cylinder valve until it is completely open
•Wait at least 1 minute. Due to the length of the hose (6'), it takes longer for the gas pressure to equalize.
•Turn the burner control knob to HI/Start
•Press the igniter to light the burner
•Turn any remaining burner control knobs to High
•The grill should preheat to 260-290 degrees ℃ in 10-15 minutes.
•NOTE: Cold weather can delay the time it takes to equalize the pressure.
 
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Yawn, just get rid of the suspected sticky regulator (I took the Weber regulator apart three times) and use the fix on the last page.

Sorry but it works every time, instead of using it might work technology.You don't want that when you need to cook.

Jeff
 
jeff, i'm not getting what you are refering to. the issue is the valve in the tank. not the weber regulator or whatever you are refering to.
can you clarify ?
 
George Curtis

Check your Notifications, don't need to babble more on here about the problems with the Q220.
 
No disrespect George, and i'm not trying to win anything.

Tank or Regulator?
I hooked up my Q220 to 4 different 20lb tanks to see if that was the problem
with the Q.

Used all the usual fixes, back to the small gas can, turn gas on slowly,
make sure all knobs are closed and wait 5-10 minutes to the gas equalize.

I would take the regulator apart and look at it put it back together
and it would work, then the next time it wouldn't work.

If yours was tank related i'm sorry for babbling about the regulator.

I had three friends buy the Weber Q220 after I bought mine and
they all quit when using the 20 Lb gas can, so I said F it and went
to Home Depot and looked around for a fix.

After the $23.00 purchase and easy install This thing works like a dream.

Then I bought my three friends the same hookup and they are
talking to me again....Just kidding.

Sorry for the rant, but when you spend that kind of money on something
and it doesn't work every time you use it, i'm going to find a way to make
it work or buy another product that will do the job.

June Lake fishing trip breakfast at my Buddy's cabin after the Home Depot fix.

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JeffG Smokesit said:
No disrespect George, and i'm not trying to win anything.

Tank or Regulator?
I hooked up my Q220 to 4 different 20lb tanks to see if that was the problem
with the Q.

Used all the usual fixes, back to the small gas can, turn gas on slowly,
make sure all knobs are closed and wait 5-10 minutes to the gas equalize.

I would take the regulator apart and look at it put it back together
and it would work, then the next time it wouldn't work.

If yours was tank related i'm sorry for babbling about the regulator.

I had three friends buy the Weber Q220 after I bought mine and
they all quit when using the 20 Lb gas can, so I said F it and went
to Home Depot and looked around for a fix.

After the $23.00 purchase and easy install This thing works like a dream.

Then I bought my three friends the same hookup and they are
talking to me again....Just kidding.

Sorry for the rant, but when you spend that kind of money on something
and it doesn't work every time you use it, i'm going to find a way to make
it work or buy another product that will do the job.

June Lake fishing trip breakfast at my Buddy's cabin after the Home Depot fix.
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Your fix makes perfect sense you’ve put the regulator right on the tank eliminating the six feet of hose that the adapter uses to get to the grill mounted regulator thus the regulator settles in within seconds instead of waiting a minuet for the hose to settle down.
Why Weber used six feet of hose when a foot or two would have been fine and probably would have worked just fine and saved you $23 and a bunch of time. Even Weber says the long hose is the problem.
 
Where did Weber say the hose was the issue? When this cropped up on the Q220 I bought for my kid they told me there was a known issue with a batch of regulators they used on the 200 series. Oddly they would not cover the replacement for me (though I was right up front and told them I bought it used). So I did "the fix" I too found proper fittings, used a regulator and hose from my Genesis II (since by this time I was running it on NG) and it has been doing just great for the last 2 or 3 years. I even wrote up the procedure in a different forum from back that time. I think what happens (from taking the old regulator apart and inspecting) is the housing was machined wrong and when the gas comes in the zinc and steel expand/contract at different rates and the diaphragm sticks causing low/no gas flow
 
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