Introduction, and a tale about buying a Genesis EP-330


 

Joe-H

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I have a Silver C I bought new in 2001. It’s been too long to remember when, but I converted it to NG a year or so after buying it. I also don’t remember where I got the conversion kit, but if Weber was selling it, I would’ve bought it from them. The kit consists of a manifold and a 10’ hose. I’ve had to convert it back to LP a few times over the years for various reasons, but normally I run it NG.
For the past 23 years, the grill is used, on average, 2 to 5 days a week, including the winter months.

I’ve been very diligent in following the same maintenance routine on the grill year after year, which consists of doing absolutely nothing to it.
Other than when it was in a cardboard box when new, it’s never had a cover on it.
At around 7 to 9 years old (can’t remember exactly), I hit it with my 4000 psi pressure washer to clean it a bit. And when I say hit it, I mean I gave every square inch of it, inside and out, all 13 horsepower the Honda could throw at it. It looked great! It inspired me to do it again a few years later.
Now hold on, don’t shake your heads, I’ve also sprayed it with the regular hose a few times. Geez, I’m not that lazy.

I replaced the cast grates with the same type 2 or 3 times over the years, always using genuine Weber grates, because I only buy the best for my baby.
I don’t remember replacing the burners or bars, but judging by the condition they’re in now, I must have done it at least once.

The grill normally sits in the same spot, very rarely do I need to move it. At around 10 to 15 years old (can’t remember exactly), I rolled it onto the lawn to do something on the patio, and both front and rear casters on the left side disintegrated when they hit the grass, they literally broke apart as I rolled it. I was angry about it at first, but when I moved it back to its spot, I cut a pressure treated 2x4 to the width of the grill and set the remaining top half the broken casters on it. The grill was almost dead nuts level! My anger quickly subsided. It’s been that way ever since.
I still pat myself on the back for using a pressure treated board instead of just pine. Nothing but the best for my baby.

Oh, almost forgot; the grease catcher assembly under the firebox. At around 5 to 15 years old (can’t remember exactly), one of the brackets that holds it up stopped doing its job. It fell onto the wire shelf below. Thank you Mr Weber for that shelf.
Keeping the grease catcher on the wire shelf, I carefully, with precision, slid the grease catch pan precisely under the hole in the firebox. Yea, the grease has a longer fall, but it (kinda) hits the pan.
The plus to this is I don’t have to empty it; throughout the night something comes and licks it clean. Feel free to copy my design on your grill.

This brings me to present day.
Joking aside, despite the lack of maintenance and being uncovered, the grill is in good condition. I’m sure most reading this aren’t surprised.
The maroon hood, although dimmed of its original shine (no faded paint), and a couple spots where the enamel is chipped, it looks good.
It still fires when the original, never replaced (as far as I remember) striker button is pressed, and it cooks great. It has plenty of heat, more than other grills I’ve cooked on. A friend bought a new, 6 burner Charbroil last year. It’s a POS compared to the C; doesn’t get nearly as hot, and just the hood alone on the C probably weighs 1/4 as much as the entire shiny stainless Charbroil does.

Although it’s not my profession, I’ve been turning wrenches on something most of my adult life. Whether it’s wood or metal, I have the tools, equipment, and machines to get the job done. I know a little bit about a few things, but I’m not a master at any of them, I just like working on things that interest me.
Obviously I’ve never paid any attention to grills, I didn’t have an interest. Until now. I’m a big fan of marketplace, found lots of good deals on different things. I started looking for deals on parts to fix up my beloved Silver C baby.

I came across a great deal on a (now I know to be a 2011) Genesis EP-330. A four burner, Special Edition Genesis that’s NG……for $100. Yippee!

My tale of woe, and the fun of working on and cleaning a Weber grill, has begun.
More to come.
 
Welcome to TVWBB @Joe-H

You had a classic Weber that proved its rock solid build to give you such a long run. The one you are getting won’t be as tolerant of neglect but I think will be a great cooker. We will look forward to hearing - and seeing in pictures! - how it goes for you.
 
Sorry guys, I had a couple too many when I typed the first post. It seemed funny last night when I was typing it, but today I read it and cringed. I’d delete it and start over, but it’s already out there, so why bother.

I bought the 330 three weeks ago. When I went to look at it, the only knowledge I had about Weber grills was what I knew about my Silver C, I knew nothing about the newer models.

The grill was filthy, but overall it was in good shape. Also included was a cover and a cast iron Weber griddle insert. The heat deflectors, burners and knobs were recently replaced, but the two flavorizer bars on the left were shot, the 3 on the right were marginal. Also, both casters on the left side were missing. Other than that it looked solid, it just needed a good cleaning.

Once home, I took the grill apart to the frame and started cleaning it in my spare time. Over the days and weeks that passed, I found this forum and started reading more about this model, and Weber grills in general.
Here are pictures of the natural gas EP-330 I bought. The first pic, if they upload in order, is of the grill before I took it apart. I’m not done with the cleaning and other work it needs, but I quickly slapped it together to take pictures of my progress so far.
 

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It looks to be in pretty good shape overall. The bottom of the cabinet is definitely saveable if you address it now. Some new internals and you'll have a pretty nice grill there.
 
it was originally LP:
  1. Hole in the floor cut out for the LP tank to recess into
  2. heat shield under the slide out bottom pan
  3. black tank slider pins on the RH side panel.

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This is the inside of an NG. Solid floor with a hole out the back panel for the hose.

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Nice job Dan, I'm not that familiar with that model of grill but can't argue with your facts.
 
it was originally LP:
  1. Hole in the floor cut out for the LP tank to recess into
  2. heat shield under the slide out bottom pan
  3. black tank slider pins on the RH side panel.

The first thing that made me wonder was the regulator. The C doesn't have one, so I got suspicious.
Then I read more on this forum, and I think it was you that did the comparison on a LP valve vs a NG valve?
In that string it was mentioned about the shield under the pan, and mounting the tank outboard (for a NG to LP conversion).

All 3 of your points, plus finally taking the time to look at the model/serial number sticker and seeing LP as the gas type, pretty much has me 101% sure this started life as an LP grill.
 
If the sticker says LP, it definitely left the Weber factory as an LP grill. What happened to it after that is anyone's guess. I know someone could look at some of my rehabs and get pretty confused by their current configuration.
 
The first thing that made me wonder was the regulator. The C doesn't have one, so I got suspicious.
Then I read more on this forum, and I think it was you that did the comparison on a LP valve vs a NG valve?
In that string it was mentioned about the shield under the pan, and mounting the tank outboard (for a NG to LP conversion).

All 3 of your points, plus finally taking the time to look at the model/serial number sticker and seeing LP as the gas type, pretty much has me 101% sure this started life as an LP grill.
If your plan is to keep it NG, My suggestion is to open up a main burner valve and compare it to the pics I posted when I did the comparison. It could have been converted properly with NG valves, or maybe it has LP valves with larger orifices. The regulator is interesting.

Anyway, be safe with it. I can say firsthand that the NG to LP conversion with orifices and a standard LPG regulator ran hot on low.

I've read the LP to NG might not have enough gas flow on low and there's a risk of a flame out.

Keep us posted on it
 

 

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