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Steve Hoch said:
As much as I like these grates, anywhere approaching $100 a piece for them is ridiculous to me. I would just as well prefer the stamped stainless grates that Weber makes for far less. I am sort of a grate purist, meaning that I want to open the lid of a Weber grill and see a set of Weber grates on it. I wonder how many of us on here collect grills and then discount and discard the stamped stainless steel grates that came from the factory on these classics only to cast them aside for inferior aftermarket grates from Amazon. You and I know that it takes some time and effort to restore them but it is surely worth it to save money and preserve the integrity of the original product. Unless they have become damaged in some way, these grates will present themselves as like new to any prospective buyer of a flip grill without the unneeded expense of a new set of grates. I just don't understand everyone's fascination with buying these crappy aftermarket grates when they probably already have something better at their fingertips for free. All Weber Genesis Gold and Platinum grills came with these grates for example, if you throw them away because they are dirty then you are just throwing away money plain and simple.
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I don't mind paying money for high quality grates. One of the main things I love about these old classic Webers is that if done right they will Outlast me. If I can upgrade the flavorizer bars with Dave's and put in a set of 9930s I know I'll probably never have to worry about anything. Sure I'll keep some spare parts around. I am a big believer in preserving these grills and reusing as much of the original grill as possible. I do like those stamp stainless and I think they are excellent quality at least the original Weber brand ones. As for a flip I don't really know because I don't flip the old ones. I guess I would have to feel out my potential buying pool. For my keeper grills I would prefer to have 9930s or Dave's which are virtually identical and what he crafted them after In design. My next choice would be Qulimetal 9mm and then Qulimetal 7mm and then original Weber stamped SS. All of the above is quality 304 SS. Any options beyond that I'm not really interested in for my keeper grills. I definitely think what it means to preserve and restore these old grills can be very different from one person to the next. I think some people would intentionally change everything about these grills and some people would preserve every last piece and some people are somewhere in the middle. Probably a little different for everybody. Anybody who throws those original stamped SS grates away because they are dirty I would have to agree strongly that that's pretty sad. Same as if the wood and z-metal is an excellent condition still I think it would be sad to throw it away for New. If I do have to replace the wood and z-metal I am going to go for SS and a higher quality wood though. For me I guess it's a fine line/balance between keeping as much of the original grill as possible but still building something that's going to easily outlast me. I think those high quality stamped SS grates fit into that keeper category for me but I would just prefer a set of high quality Solid SS over them on my keepers.
 
Josh Dekubber said:
I don't mind paying money for high quality grates. One of the main things I love about these old classic Webers is that if done right they will Outlast me. If I can upgrade the flavorizer bars with Dave's and put in a set of 9930s I know I'll probably never have to worry about anything. Sure I'll keep some spare parts around. I am a big believer in preserving these grills and reusing as much of the original grill as possible. I do like those stamp stainless and I think they are excellent quality at least the original Weber brand ones. As for a flip I don't really know because I don't flip the old ones. I guess I would have to feel out my potential buying pool. For my keeper grills I would prefer to have 9930s or Dave's which are virtually identical and what he crafted them after In design. My next choice would be Qulimetal 9mm and then Qulimetal 7mm and then original Weber stamped SS. All of the above is quality 304 SS. Any options beyond that I'm not really interested in for my keeper grills. I definitely think what it means to preserve and restore these old grills can be very different from one person to the next. I think some people would intentionally change everything about these grills and some people would preserve every last piece and some people are somewhere in the middle. Probably a little different for everybody. Anybody who throws those original stamped SS grates away because they are dirty I would have to agree strongly that that's pretty sad. Same as if the wood and z-metal is an excellent condition still I think it would be sad to throw it away for New. If I do have to replace the wood and z-metal I am going to go for SS and a higher quality wood though. For me I guess it's a fine line/balance between keeping as much of the original grill as possible but still building something that's going to easily outlast me. I think those high quality stamped SS grates fit into that keeper category for me but I would just prefer a set of high quality Solid SS over them on my keepers.
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All duly noted. The wood on these old grills is super easy for me to throw away as I can reproduce it in a superior fashion. Choice of grates are another story obviously.
 
Also I think it's fantastic if I can save a set of 9930s out of a rotted out rusted out grill on its way to the dump. Can you imagine arguably the best grates ever made sitting in the dump because the rest of the grill rotted away. That's very sad to me
 
I ordered 4 Marshall gas acme nut adapters that should be showing up today. I'm excited to redo my first four original propane regulator hoses. I'm happy to start saving those old high quality American made regulator hoses. I should have started doing that long ago but I'm glad I didn't throw any of them away. Now when I see those old grills for sale and they have the original regulator hose on them I'm actually happy to see them.

After doing a lot of research into it the other one that I would trust would be Mr heater brand that Larry was talking about. Those have a really good reputation and are still quality made in the USA. As far as what's being made today right now Mr hater is probably the best brand option for hoses and fittings and such
 
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Josh Dekubber said:
I ordered 4 Marshall gas acme nut adapters that should be showing up today. I'm excited to redo my first four original propane regulator hoses. I'm happy to start saving those old high quality American made regulator hoses. I should have started doing that long ago but I'm glad I didn't throw any of them away. Now when I see those old grills for sale and they have the original regulator hose on them I'm actually happy to see them.

After doing a lot of research into it the other one that I would trust would be Mr heater brand that Larry was talking about. Those have a really good reputation and are still quality made in the USA. As far as what's being made today right now Mr hater is probably the best brand option for hoses and fittings and such
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Rule number one in this game is to never throw anything away until you're sure it isn't useful so good on you for that. I have replaced a couple bad regulators with aftermarket ones in the past but prefer to restore the original ones to their original condition just like anything else on an old grill.
 
Steve Hoch said:
Rule number one in this game is to never throw anything away until you're sure it isn't useful so good on you for that. I have replaced a couple bad regulators with aftermarket ones in the past but prefer to restore the original ones to their original condition just like anything else on an old grill.
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Yeah I'm glad I kept them. I have to admit it was a misstep oversight on my part. I really didn't think about it clearly. In my mind I was just changing out an old Weber regulator for a new Weber regulator that fit with today's propane connections.
 
Josh Dekubber said:
Yeah I'm glad I kept them. I have to admit it was a misstep oversight on my part. I really didn't think about it clearly. In my mind I was just changing out an old Weber regulator for a new Weber regulator that fit with today's propane connections.
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That's the cool thing about this forum, you keep learning new things as you go along. I learn new things all the time from our members and I know that I pass along good info to other people as well, even if they don't always acknowledge it.
 
Steve Hoch said:
That's the cool thing about this forum, you keep learning new things as you go along. I learn new things all the time from our members and I know that I pass along good info to other people as well, even if they don't always acknowledge it.
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Absolutely true! I'm thankful for the things I've learned from here and thankful that I've been able to help others which will always be important to me.

The archived information here is priceless also
 
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Absolutely true! I'm thankful for the things I've learned from here and thankful that I've been able to help others which will always be important to me.
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It's all about having fun and sharing the experience to me. I learn things every time I restore a grill which is why I like to have a dedicated thread to some of them. It doesn't really help anyone if I just post some after pictures of what I did to a grill.
 
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It's all about having fun and sharing the experience to me. I learn things every time I restore a grill which is why I like to have a dedicated thread to some of them. It doesn't really help anyone if I just post some after pictures of what I did to a grill.
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I do prefer those long ongoing threads presenting every project within the project
 
I still have quite a few flips to clear out but I'm tempted to push them aside and build another high quality Genesis 1000 keeper restoration. I do have one grill that I have to finish that someone's waiting to buy but after that.
 
Josh Dekubber said:
I do prefer those long ongoing threads presenting every project within the project
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Absolutely, so do I. I wish more of our members would do the same. I couldn't be the only one that runs into challenges along the way. I want to see how you got there, not just the finished product. The other fun thing is the interaction with everyone as you go along. We should make it illegal just to show a finished grill with no backstory or context.
 
Steve Hoch said:
Absolutely, so do I. I wish more of our members would do the same. I couldn't be the only one that runs into challenges along the way. I want to see how you got there, not just the finished product. The other fun thing is the interaction with everyone as you go along. We should make it illegal just to show a finished grill with no backstory or context.
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I Like that lol
 
For example, I spent all day fixing a bad spot in the paint on my current project. The paint had wrinkled on the front of the frame on the right upright. It was driving me crazy and I have no idea what caused it but I had to fix it. I did finally get it right but didn't mention it in my thread although I should have but it was embarrassing.
 
Steve Hoch said:
For example, I spent all day fixing a bad spot in the paint on my current project. The paint had wrinkled on the front of the frame on the right upright. It was driving me crazy and I have no idea what caused it but I had to fix it. I did finally get it right but didn't mention it in my thread although I should have but it was embarrassing.
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Nothing to be embarrassed about Steve. Seeing, acknowledging and fixing is something to be proud of. The pride in your work shows. The fact that maybe no one else would notice but you knew and that was enough reason to fix it and make it right. I can very much appreciate that thinking and mindset.
 
Josh Dekubber said:
Nothing to be embarrassed about Steve. Seeing, acknowledging and fixing is something to be proud of. The pride in your work shows. The fact that maybe no one else would notice but you knew and that was enough reason to fix it and make it right. I can very much appreciate that thinking and mindset.
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Not that I didn't think anyone would understand, but it it didn't look right and I couldn't leave it that way. I know you and probably everyone else gets it. It was a whole day committed to fixing paint errors on a frame and nobody ever talks about that.
 
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