I will just leave this here


 
Josh Dekubber said:
Includes cart, cover, and propane gas tank.

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Out of my range otherwise I'd grab it for my nabors. Im planning on finding another AZ Jr. to restore for them but may not find another one soon.
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That's crazy! I would go all out to get that if it were near me.
 
This guy always has a bunch listed and always says "cleaned inside and out" and yet they are ALWAYS dirty. And he still seems to sell them. I might be missing the boat 😜

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Eric-NH said:
This guy always has a bunch listed and always says "cleaned inside and out" and yet they are ALWAYS dirty. And he still seems to sell them. I might be missing the boat 😜

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At least they look better than the ones the guy last year in Lowell, MA was flipping that looked like he painted the flavorizer bars (and the sometimes the insides).
 
I think he could certainly do better, but it is also true that there are many buyers who don't see older Weber grills as the "classics" we do. They just want to save money buying something solid and relatively clean. At that guy's asking price, I think they could expect more, but if you are looking at this primarily as a side business - rather than a hobby with a lot of affection - then you do have to ask how many hours of work and cost of more new parts it would take for him to make that grill like many of us here feel it should look like. Looking at it purely from a dollar and cents perspective, how much return on those hours of work - and cost of those parts - would he really get?
 
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Jon Tofte said:
I think he could certainly do better, but it is also true that there are many buyers who don't see older Weber grills as the "classics" we do. They just want to save money buying something solid and relatively clean. At that guy's asking price, I think they could expect more, but if you are looking at this primarily as a side business - rather than a hobby with a lot of affection - then you do have to ask how many hours of work and cost of more new parts it would take for him to make that grill like many of us here feel it should look like. Looking at it purely from a dollar and cents perspective, how much return on those hours of work - and cost of those parts - would he really get?
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Jon, I agree with you to a point. I don't expect the guy to completely restore that grill to museum quality standards, especially for what he's asking for it. Decent used parts are certainly acceptable. On the other hand, how long would it have taken to clean up the tables and the handle? Oh, and the handle is on upside down.
 
It doesn't really matter how long it takes to do a better job or how much more work it takes. All that matters is if he can fine people to buy what he is offering at the price he asks. If he is moving grills, then more power to him. If he isn't, well, then he won't be rehabbing very long.
 
Bruce said:
It doesn't really matter how long it takes to do a better job or how much more work it takes. All that matters is if he can fine people to buy what he is offering at the price he asks. If he is moving grills, then more power to him. If he isn't, well, then he won't be rehabbing very long.
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That's true at the end of the day, not everyone takes pride in their work.
 
Steve Hoch said:
That's true at the end of the day, not everyone takes pride in their work.
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I was not at all agreeing with his presentation, and I do admit it wouldn't take a whole lot to clean it up more. But, like Bruce says, if someone chooses to do just the bare minimum and has happy paying customers, what can you say? And, sadly, I do think that the return on every additional hour spent on a grill like that becomes less and less.

The one factor that this short-term perspective does not take into account is customer loyalty and referrals. While satisfied to get what they wanted at a price they were OK with, I doubt anyone who would buy that grill would be that excited to brag to their friends about their purchase or the "restorer." On the other hand, @Bruce is getting repeat customers and people standing in line because of his sterling reputation that prior buyers DO share. I know that from talking with him recently, but I am sure that this is true of a number of others here on TVWBB who take a great deal of pride in their workmanship. Doing the minimum is a job. Making an old grill a gem is a joy.
 
Jon Tofte said:
I was not at all agreeing with his presentation, and I do admit it wouldn't take a whole lot to clean it up more. But, like Bruce says, if someone chooses to do just the bare minimum and has happy paying customers, what can you say? And, sadly, I do think that the return on every additional hour spent on a grill like that becomes less and less.

The one factor that this short-term perspective does not take into account is customer loyalty and referrals. While satisfied to get what they wanted at a price they were OK with, I doubt anyone who would buy that grill would be that excited to brag to their friends about their purchase or the "restorer." On the other hand, @Bruce is getting repeat customers and people standing in line because of his sterling reputation that prior buyers DO share. I know that from talking with him recently, but I am sure that this is true of a number of others here on TVWBB who take a great deal of pride in their workmanship. Doing the minimum is a job. Making an old grill a gem is a joy.
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Jon, believe me when I tell you that it doesn't bother me one way or another what this guy does with his grills. I did mention that I didn't think what he was asking was totally out of line for what he did. I will also say that I'm pretty sure what he's doing wouldn't work around here because there just doesn't appear to be enough of a difference between his grill and one just like it I can pick up up for 75-100 bucks.
 
I’ve sold a handful of Spirit grills that I’ve spent a bit of time cleaning and spiffing up. They are far more profitable in the short term, but I also know that they won’t last as long for the end user so I price them accordingly. And frankly, they sell quicker too.

The Genesis’ that I do, I take more pride in my craft that many of you have helped to teach me how to apply it to a grill knowing that someone has another 10+ years of use in.

That being said, I’m not mad at someone for being a capitalist or entrepreneur. I feel bad for the end user paying $200 for a marginally cleaned up grill, with minimal new parts, when clearly there’s folks all over the country that put a lot of time and effort into resurrecting them into the glorious machines they once were.
 
Cody Bratton said:
I’ve sold a handful of Spirit grills that I’ve spent a bit of time cleaning and spiffing up. They are far more profitable in the short term, but I also know that they won’t last as long for the end user so I price them accordingly. And frankly, they sell quicker too.

The Genesis’ that I do, I take more pride in my craft that many of you have helped to teach me how to apply it to a grill knowing that someone has another 10+ years of use in.

That being said, I’m not mad at someone for being a capitalist or entrepreneur. I feel bad for the end user paying $200 for a marginally cleaned up grill, with minimal new parts, when clearly there’s folks all over the country that put a lot of time and effort into resurrecting them into the glorious machines they once were.
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One of the things I find strange is that the grates don't even appear to be scraped. Grills that look similar to his in the same area I've seen for free or $50. I'm guessing he is grabbing those, giving them a rinse and listing for what I consider to be a ton of money. Just odd to me that anyone would even be interested
 
Eric-NH said:
One of the things I find strange is that the grates don't even appear to be scraped. Grills that look similar to his in the same area I've seen for free or $50. I'm guessing he is grabbing those, giving them a rinse and listing for what I consider to be a ton of money. Just odd to me that anyone would even be interested
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This is what that guy is doing right based on the ad you posted. He is cleaning out the cookbox and grease tray to good enough, and he says that he replaced worn out parts so the grill works as it should. That must appeal to the person that isn't interested in cleaning or replacing parts on a grill, they just want to cook on it. It's not always easy for me to look at things from that perspective, but that's got to be pretty close.
 
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