Dual Fuel Ovens.


 
It's also pretty easy to modify to work. If you find out from your gas installer what pressure you have and you sent the manifold I could even do it for you
 
So while choosing a contractor to have the gas line installed, I also asked about converting my fireplace to use a gas ignition one.

However, when asking the contractor some questions today, I just realized that he only provides the stub out for a gas key ignition system.

I will have to purchase a gas burner and have that installed, separately.

Can someone link me to to a few fireplace gas burner companies?

What I want to do is be able to still burn firewood, but have the gas ignition and burner to assist me if I choose.

If I choose not to use the gas ignition, then I still want to burn firewood.

Is this possible?

And can someone link to me the different things that I would need to accomplish this, once the gas key ignition system is installed?

I see some products called "gas logs". Do I have to use those?

I like the smell of firewood.

I tried searching for some things, but I am not sure what I need anymore.
 
Thanks for the prompt response. What log lighter is better, the one you linked, or this one?

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Blue Flame 16.5 in. Straight Natural Gas Log Lighter with Exclusive Air/Gas Mixing Chamber 26,000 BTU LLS.1626.NG - The Home Depot

When the Power Goes Out or anytime, increase heat in wood burning fireplace with the Blue Flame Log Lighter. For use with natural gas, this energy saving Blue Flame Log Lighter ensures safety for the end user by mixing air and gas together for a safer light up. Reduces pollution in the air by...
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Is this used with a gas key ignition system, or is it connected to a gas pipe? I was previously talking with the contractor about a gas key ignition system. Would that still be used / necessary?

So I don't need a gas burner then?
 
I just linked that one as an example. I don't think there's much difference between any of them. They're all just a burner tube with an air shutter to adjust the flame.

I'm not familiar with the term "gas key ignition system", but maybe it's a kit like this that provides almost all of the pieces needed for a gas log lighter.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07145RFPP/?tag=tvwb-20

You need a NG line running to the fireplace, connecting to a valve on the wall or in the floor near the fireplace, then a pipe running from the valve into the fireplace that connects to the burner tube. The chrome cover provides a finished look for the valve. The chrome key goes into the valve to turn on/off the gas.

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Chris Allingham said:
I just linked that one as an example. I don't think there's much difference between any of them. They're all just a burner tube with an air shutter to adjust the flame.

I'm not familiar with the term "gas key ignition system", but maybe it's a kit like this that provides almost all of the pieces needed for a gas log lighter.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07145RFPP/?tag=tvwb-20

You need a NG line running to the fireplace, connecting to a valve on the wall or in the floor near the fireplace, then a pipe running from the valve into the fireplace that connects to the burner tube. The chrome cover provides a finished look for the valve. The chrome key goes into the valve to turn on/off the gas.

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Thank you. I will send this kit to the contractor and confirm with him about this setup.
 
We had our woodburner removed. Cold, drafty, insects (wasp infestations), used more heat from the house, smoke bothered my allergies and lung issues. Had a sealed direct vent remote control fireplace installed from Majestic. Best money I have spent in a loooooooong time. No stupid chimney, no insect issues, I am saving so much on heating costs it's amazing, my patio door no longer ices up and becomes unusable in our arctic temps (which at times achieve a TRUE -25F) and when wife and I want a fire I push the button and get a beautiful fire and actually get heat gain not loss in the house. Ahhhhhhh and no more going outside in that -25f weather to get wood with sleeping wasps as well that seem to wake up just as you put the log in LOL. Now my home is clean, safe and warm
 
LMichaels said:
We had our woodburner removed. Cold, drafty, insects (wasp infestations), used more heat from the house, smoke bothered my allergies and lung issues. Had a sealed direct vent remote control fireplace installed from Majestic. Best money I have spent in a loooooooong time. No stupid chimney, no insect issues, I am saving so much on heating costs it's amazing, my patio door no longer ices up and becomes unusable in our arctic temps (which at times achieve a TRUE -25F) and when wife and I want a fire I push the button and get a beautiful fire and actually get heat gain not loss in the house. Ahhhhhhh and no more going outside in that -25f weather to get wood with sleeping wasps as well that seem to wake up just as you put the log in LOL. Now my home is clean, safe and warm
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Can you provide a link to what you have?
 
Chris Allingham said:
No, it's not.

The valve is in the wall or floor outside the fireplace. The gas log lighter is in the fireplace under the grate where you place your split wood. You need to connect the valve to the gas log lighter with a pipe.


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This was installed today.

Thanks @Chris Allingham for your help with the info.

Question: So I turn the key to initiate the gas, then I use matchstick lighter to ignite the fire.

Say the fire is burning the wood now.

Can I then turn off the gas (turn the key the other way), and let the wood burn until it's done? Will it continue to burn, if there was a good amount of flame?

Or do I have to keep the gas on the entire time? And is it then using gas the entire time?
 
What you have I think is a gas "starter". So once your wood fire is burning well, you simply turn off the gas. It's only there for what's called "gas assist". Or starter. If you have ceramic logs installed then yes you must leave it on as long as you want a fire.
 
LMichaels said:
What you have I think is a gas "starter". So once your wood fire is burning well, you simply turn off the gas. It's only there for what's called "gas assist".
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Great, thanks. This is how I wanted it.

I just wanted to make sure that the finished installation was going to operate like I had envisioned.
 
Well, that didn't last long.

Even though I only had the fireplace on for a few minutes on Monday, I smelled gas in the living room for the rest of the evening.

I called the contractor on Tuesday and told them what I smelled.

They came by today, and after digging underneath behind the fireplace, because the gas line is underground, eventually found the source of the leak.

So, this will have to be repaired.

Good thing I haven't ordered my duel fuel range/oven yet. It's probably best to wait a least one day, of using some of the other new gas devices, like the fireplace, and ensure nothing is wrong. Before ordering an appliance.
 
The oven came and is installed now. It looks good in person too.

First thing I did was put stuff from my old oven's storage drawer, in the new storage drawer. I can't fit everything the old one could, plus I'm putting some things in this oven's storage drawer, like the Air Fryer basket and the oven divider insert, that the old oven didn't have.
 
So I've used the gas range a few times:

* Making quesadillas, using my Lodge griddle on the center burner.
* Making grilled sandwiches, using the Lodge griddle on the center burner.
* Making pancakes, using the Lodge griddle on the center burner.
* Stir frying broccoli and cucumbers, on the rear left burner in a small pan.

In each case, the consistency in cooking was so much better than any other previous electric range I've used. Quesadillas and sandwiches were evenly browned using this gas range.

With the old electric range, the center of a quesadilla might be browned, but that's about it. And for sandwiches, if I wanted the whole sandwich grilled, part of it would be a lot more than the other part.

Even with the vegetables, every vegetable had about the same amount of char marks.

So the heating seems to be a lot more even than what I had before.

I haven't used the oven yet.

I am thinking that the next time I make frozen fries, I will try the air fry mode that this oven is capable of? I've never used an air fryer before.

This recommends shaking the basket every 5 mins:

www.cookitrealgood.com

Air Fryer Frozen French Fries

With your air fryer, you can make delicious frozen french fries in just 15 minutes - extra crispy on the outside and tender on the inside!
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Any other tips?
 
Your air fry mode is the same as a convection oven I would think.
A air fryer is smaller and for one or two servings it heats up faster and cooks quicker compared to a convection oven.
Having said that I use my convection oven for fries, wings, vegs.
Spray with oil from a misto, and shake or flip.
 
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