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Rick Kramer

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Okay, I have this vac-sealed bag of brisket that I defrosted in our "normal" fridge. By "normal" I mean the one that gets opened multiple times a day. Especially so when you have a 5 year old in the house! I defrosted this bag on the 5th of this month and it's been in there, unopened, ever since. I think it's still good but would like to hear from you guys what you think? Would you trust it enough to give to a prospective client or a friend?
 
Rick, is it green with mold????
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Only kidding, I'd taste sample it and if you decide its' ok than go for it. I know how particular you are and if it doesn't meet the Rick's Pit Stop standard it ain't going anywhere.
 
LOL ... I AM particular! Thanks paul for the vote of confidence in the quality of my food. Matter of fact, I just took about five lbs of brisket and marked it for beans and such. I goofed up holding it and dried it out somewhat. Grrrrr ... but a lesson learned.

I'd hate to open it because that's the one thing that's keeping it "fresh"? Got a friend who's down on their luck and I was gonna hook em up with some freebies. Just don't want to get them sick in the process!
 
Simple answer is NO don't eat it toss it . I have had food posioning and its awful not worth taking the chance . I got mine from bad corned beef from a deli wife got hers from bad maragine on a lemon pie . A friend a mine died from some kina bad food eating out it was a patty melt so must a been bad meat .

If I eve n think somthiong might be bad I toss so does my wife . but YMMV
 
I'm like you Guy to where I throw out stuff if there's even an inkling something is off about it. But, with that said, I've also learned from visiting sites like this one that on several ocassions some things that I would've thrown out, didn't need to be. To tell ya the truth, I think the meat is still good. I'm just looking for some affirmation from the resident pros! If I don't get it, it's gone!
 
Well I aint a pro but having cooked for about 50 yrs and worked in cooking schools, etc I usually don't keep meet in the frige more than a week. Well I will keep it longer but after a week it goes to the dogs. That is assuming that it has stayed in the comfort zone temp wise since you bought it. If you thawed it in the fridge it probably took at least 24 hrs to defrost depending on size, so you are at 9 days now. Close to the line in my opinion.

Mark
 
When in doubt throw it out! Two benefits come from this; 1. you avoid the possiblity of getting sick, 2. you get to enjoy smoking another brisket!
 
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Jerry P.:
So even for vac sealed meat, the shelf life is about a week? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>In the frig, yes.

I'm with Mark, after a week, out it goes.

I think the rule-of-thumb is 1 week max for everything but eggs, cheese, and some fruits.

Having said that, sure, I've eaten questionable stuff. But I wouldn't give it to others, certainly not kids.
 
When I was an army cook,the rule was after 3 days,it gets tossed. No matter what. Cooked or thawed,if not served in three days,it goes to the piggies. If we fixed something and it just didn't get eaten,into the trash. Big waste,but nobody got sick. Just my $.02.
 
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Bryan S:
Cooked and vac sealed. Yep, I'd eat it no worries. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I agree.

However, the original question mentioned a client or friend. No I would absolutely not give it to anyone else.
 
The operative issue is whether the meat was handled properly after cooking, i.e., cooled before being packed for storage, not cross-contaminated by being placed on a dirty cutting board, that sort of thing.

Assuming it was handled properly there are two major issues of concern, concerning pathogens. First, if the meat was handled by hand (breathed on, coughed near, etc.) one can assume contamination by Staph. aureus (it's just too common and ubiquitous). This is the concern with proper (and fairly quick) thorough cooling (food packed warm, especially if thickly packed, stay warm for too long in the fridge).

Cooled properly and fridged or, better, frozen, Staph. does not grow. Staph needs warmer temps and some time to grow to the level it needs to produce toxin. So, cooled correctly and Staph. is a non-issue.

There are other possible pathogens that could develop on the meat if cross-contaminated after cooking (the dirty cutting board again, or handling raw foods before handling the cooked meat without adequate handwashing). The majority will not grow at cold temps either - except for Listeria. Were Listeria present on the meat before cooking, cooking would have taken care of it. Were it contaminated after cooking, outgrowth could occur at fridge temps.

But Listeria would be taken care of during reheating.

So, were the meat handled correctly after cooking and during prep for storage, as noted above, I see no reason to be concerned with food borne illness.

I have had food poisoning many times over the years. Yes, very unpleasant. However, 'shelf life' - in most cases - is about quality, not potential pathogen contamination. Remember, food pathogens have no odor nor flavor and cannot be detected by taste nor smell. If you smell something or feel something (like slime) it's not going to taste very good. Odor, slime and off-taste are caused by spoilage bacteria (and mold, in some cases). Microorganisms that cause food spoilage are not known for causing illness.

Were it me, if the food in question was possibly too long in the fridge but smelled and felt fine - and it was something meant to be reheated - I would, reheating thoroughly. (I would not taste it first.) Were it something not meant to be reheated I'd probably pitch it, if at all questionable.

My 2.
 
If the vac seal is tight - if there's no air in the package and it's as vacuum sealed as originally, then, given Kevin's caveats regarding handling, I'd eat it.

OTOH, if you're going to serve it and then wait anxiously for your family to rush off to hospital, toss it!
 
Sorry about the delayed response guys. I ended up reheating and eating most of the brisket myself. It was fine. No loss in quality either. The reason I asked in the first place was because I was considering giving it to someone and I just wanted some other opinions. Thanks to all who replied!
 

 

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