Large L&S cook WSK


 

Ross W

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I've tried to hold off on posting my own thread and just stick to searching, but I just can't help myself. I'm doing a big smoke this weekend on my WSK — planning to cook a brisket and a pork butt at the same time, hopefully. I've done each separately a few times overnight with mixed results. This cook is for a large gathering, and I plan on buying the biggest prime brisket I can find at Sam’s Club.

The plan is to run the WSK at 225°F overnight, allowing for a 4-hour rest in a cooler, which should give me some buffer on serving time. I'm aiming to put the meat on at 11 p.m.; the party starts at 3 p.m. the next day, and I'd like to serve right at 5 p.m. I have a couple of main questions left, but any other tips from the WSK crew would be appreciated.

1) First is the classic lump vs briquets. I am much more experienced with briquets but my last couple of pork butts didn't quite have the flavor I was looking for. And rightly or wrongly I've attributed it to too much white smoke from the unlit briquets. I also can't even remember what brand briquets I was using and would use B&B this time if I go that route. Either way I will be putting quite a bit of coal into the WSK but then lighting only 8-10 & placing those in the center top of the unlit coals and giving it a good 45 minutes with the diffuser and water pan prior to adding the meat. I would like to give lump a try for hopefully less white smoke but unsure if the tradeoff of evenness of the burn overnight would be worth it.

2) Anyone have a lot of experience with the Weber expander rack on the WSK? I’m thinking of cooking brisket over pork butt, with the brisket on the expander rack, but I’m worried there won’t be enough lid clearance for a large packer. My other idea is to cook just the brisket overnight, then add the pork butt on top in the morning once the brisket is wrapped. Any advice?
 
I did a thread on a similar cook last year using the expander rack from the Ceramic Grill Store:


I think the wood you use is much more important for flavor than the charcoal.
 
Paging @Brett-EDH
he's done more briskets on the WSK than I can remember.

A couple of questions; How large of a brisket? Full packer? or ? How large a butt? bone-in or boneless ?

I think I would cook the brisket separate from the pork butt. After the brisket is wrapped you could move it to an electric oven to finish before going into a cooler to rest and this opens up the WSK for the pork butt.

I like to smoke pork butt hot-and-fast or a ramp up to a hotter cook. I'll link how I did this as it greatly shortens the cook time with no noticeable difference.

Pork butt also needs an hour or two to

Also, with dinner service at 5pm, you need to factor in slicing and shredding time so that has to be factored in.

If I were doing this, I'd work backwards from service time to determine start times for each of the proteins, and I would add in a 2 hour buffer for the brisket and an hour for the pork shoulder. If the shoulder is going slow you can up the temp, but if the brisket is going slow I think you have to let it ride.
 
in this post I described timing/temps of a modified hot-and-fast pork shoulder cook where I let the temp creep up from smoke temps to roast temps. No difference in flavor or bark with a much shorter cook duration.

 
Paging @Brett-EDH
he's done more briskets on the WSK than I can remember.

A couple of questions; How large of a brisket? Full packer? or ? How large a butt? bone-in or boneless ?

I think I would cook the brisket separate from the pork butt. After the brisket is wrapped you could move it to an electric oven to finish before going into a cooler to rest and this opens up the WSK for the pork butt.

I like to smoke pork butt hot-and-fast or a ramp up to a hotter cook. I'll link how I did this as it greatly shortens the cook time with no noticeable difference.

Pork butt also needs an hour or two to

Also, with dinner service at 5pm, you need to factor in slicing and shredding time so that has to be factored in.

If I were doing this, I'd work backwards from service time to determine start times for each of the proteins, and I would add in a 2 hour buffer for the brisket and an hour for the pork shoulder. If the shoulder is going slow you can up the temp, but if the brisket is going slow I think you have to let it ride.
Thanks! Full packer brisket and likely the largest I can find. For the pork it will likely be "Bone in Boston Butt" from Sam's club.
 
I did a thread on a similar cook last year using the expander rack from the Ceramic Grill Store:


I think the wood you use is much more important for flavor than the charcoal.

Awesome thread, looked like you used lump and had no problem at all staying right around 225 all night.
 
I've tried to hold off on posting my own thread and just stick to searching, but I just can't help myself. I'm doing a big smoke this weekend on my WSK — planning to cook a brisket and a pork butt at the same time, hopefully. I've done each separately a few times overnight with mixed results. This cook is for a large gathering, and I plan on buying the biggest prime brisket I can find at Sam’s Club.

The plan is to run the WSK at 225°F overnight, allowing for a 4-hour rest in a cooler, which should give me some buffer on serving time. I'm aiming to put the meat on at 11 p.m.; the party starts at 3 p.m. the next day, and I'd like to serve right at 5 p.m. I have a couple of main questions left, but any other tips from the WSK crew would be appreciated.

1) First is the classic lump vs briquets. I am much more experienced with briquets but my last couple of pork butts didn't quite have the flavor I was looking for. And rightly or wrongly I've attributed it to too much white smoke from the unlit briquets. I also can't even remember what brand briquets I was using and would use B&B this time if I go that route. Either way I will be putting quite a bit of coal into the WSK but then lighting only 8-10 & placing those in the center top of the unlit coals and giving it a good 45 minutes with the diffuser and water pan prior to adding the meat. I would like to give lump a try for hopefully less white smoke but unsure if the tradeoff of evenness of the burn overnight would be worth it.

2) Anyone have a lot of experience with the Weber expander rack on the WSK? I’m thinking of cooking brisket over pork butt, with the brisket on the expander rack, but I’m worried there won’t be enough lid clearance for a large packer. My other idea is to cook just the brisket overnight, then add the pork butt on top in the morning once the brisket is wrapped. Any advice?
I'm thinking you can get a large brisket and a PB side by side on the WSK.

As for the 225F, for the life of me I don't understand why everyone thinks that's gods temperature. You can easily cook a brisket at 250-275F and get the same result as 225F but save a lot of time.

From my own experience, of lots of briskets smoked on the WSK:

Kpro biqs work great - light only 3-5 briqs. I'll post a pic on what my setup looks like for starting this fire.
Add some wood chunks for flavor since Kpro is basically just heat, and not much flavor.
A very large brisket, fat cap down with an aluminum drip tray beneath it to catch the grease, say 18#, will cook in 8.5-9 hours including the wrap. So starting at 11P, you'll be wrapping at 430/5A or so. Personally, I'd start at midnight and catch the extra hour of sleep.

On the PB, I also don't understand why people leave PBs whole and large, cut them in half to make management easier and cooktime less. You're going to shred it anyways so get more bark with two smaller pieces. No one cares what your PB looks like. They're eating shredded pork when all is said and done.

I wouldn't waste time with the double stack rack. I don't think it's needed here.

Pics to follow when i get on my phone, and off this laptop.
 
18# choice

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Meat went on at 915p
Meat came off at 1056A next day

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Full load of briqs:

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Tallow filled paper towel to light the briqs:

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Preheating the grill:

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For the record, this was my longest stall ever. And the ashes covered the WSK bottom vents which tanked my internal temp. I fixed that when I got up the next AM and ran the sweep. I think I lost 90 minutes of productive cook time by the ash issue.
 
For the record, this was my longest stall ever. And the ashes covered the WSK bottom vents which tanked my internal temp. I fixed that when I got up the next AM and ran the sweep. I think I lost 90 minutes of productive cook time by the ash issue.
Thank you! Im think you are right and they will just fit side by side. Both wont be completely over the waterpan but I'll favor the brisket and not worry about the shoulder.
The reason for 225 on this cook was to make it take as long as possible for the 5pm serve time and get some sleep. But I do find the WSK is easier to dial in at 250 so I probably should just start later.
 
Thank you! Im think you are right and they will just fit side by side. Both wont be completely over the waterpan but I'll favor the brisket and not worry about the shoulder.
The reason for 225 on this cook was to make it take as long as possible for the 5pm serve time and get some sleep. But I do find the WSK is easier to dial in at 250 so I probably should just start later.
Foil your deflector and use the large aluminum water pan that Costco sells. You can unbend the corners of the pan to increase the width of the pan and still hold the drippings.

I’ve seen large PBs with bone in go 14 hours. Thus my recco to halve the beast to ensure on time results.

Enjoy your cook and post pics. Hopefully you have a signals to monitor IT on both meats. It’d be very helpful and useful.
 
Foil your deflector and use the large aluminum water pan that Costco sells. You can unbend the corners of the pan to increase the width of the pan and still hold the drippings.

I’ve seen large PBs with bone in go 14 hours. Thus my recco to halve the beast to ensure on time results.

Enjoy your cook and post pics. Hopefully you have a signals to monitor IT on both meats. It’d be very helpful and useful.
Not a signals unfortunately but the thermapro equivalent so il be monitoring both meats and the grill temp.
 

 

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