Steve Hoch
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I almost asked him what happened to the original one but stopped myself. You're probably right about him giving that one to someone else.
Genesis Gold Part 2
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Steve Hoch
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And I'm a little bummed about missing out on a decent Gold B. I messaged the guy early this morning but someone else was already on it.
Samuel
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Steve,
I like the way you brought that manifold back to life. I have never done anything that compares to that before, but I have an extra Silver C manifold I might practice on. Do you use RTV on the back screw of valve bolt? And how do you get the valves to shine so well?
I like the way you brought that manifold back to life. I have never done anything that compares to that before, but I have an extra Silver C manifold I might practice on. Do you use RTV on the back screw of valve bolt? And how do you get the valves to shine so well?
Steve Hoch
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I've done three of this type manifold and they are super easy to work on. I start off by spraying the entire manifold including the valves with penetrant, I use Gibbs. I let it soak overnight to let it loosen up any rust plus it loosens up the valves as I have no desire anymore to try and completely take them apart to service them. With the valves still on the rail, I use a brass wire wire wheel in my drill to polish up the valves and the brass fittings while being careful not to scratch up the part that seats against the regulator hose fitting. When I have everything shiny, I carefully remove the valves and the regulator fitting. I leave the quick connect for the side burner and just tape it off for painting. I then use a palm sander and a wire wheel on the manifold to get all the rust off and prep for paint. I paint it with high heat or high heat ultra and let it dry. I carefully put the valves back on and that's about it. I haven't had any problems with leaks and haven't used any additional RTV to seal the valves up, but would if there was a problem.
Steve Hoch
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Oh, and you have to put pipe dope on the threads of the regulator fitting when reinstalling it.
LMichaels
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Only the portion of the fitting that goes into the manifold itself (the NPT pipe thread portion)
Steve Hoch
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Yes, I should have clarified that in case anyone didn't know.
Steve Hoch
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You're welcome, and of course there are more reasons to do it my way than just having it look good.
Josh Dekubber
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Steve I'm curious why you don't take the valves apart to serve them? Clean/lubricate
Steve Hoch
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Fair question. Out of all the manifolds that I've tried to get the screws out of the valves to do that, I've only succeeded once in getting all six of them out without issue. I always use penetrant on the screws and I use a proper screwdriver but it doesn't seem to matter, at least on the ones I've had. Secondly, I've found that by spraying penetrant on the shafts of the valves and cleaning all the corrosion off of them works just as good as the other technique without the stress or hassle. So basically when I'm done doing what I do to the manifold I have one that both looks and works like a brand new one. Plus shutting down the rust makes me feel like I'm extending the life of that part for many more years.
Josh Dekubber
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That makes sense Steve. I'll try it your way next time. Thanks for the tip
Steve Hoch
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You have to keep in mind my climate is a lot harder on grills and their parts than yours or others around the country. If you can get away with just wiping down a manifold and reusing it, then go for it. I just never have that luxury.
Josh Dekubber
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I enjoy taking everything apart and focusing on the small details. Im never in any hurry to finish x000 grills. If you think it's not necessary to take the valves completely apart to service them I won't bother.
Steve Hoch
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I definitely enjoy the details as well or I wouldn't bother to do the extra work on the manifold, but there is another way to do it besides taking the valves apart and I believe @Bruce has even acknowledged doing it the same way. I would say that if the valves turn freely, pop up and lock in place correctly that taking them apart may be a needless risk.
Josh Dekubber
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Perfect thanks Steve!
Steve Hoch
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I was digging through a can of miscellaneous junk today looking for a nut to fix something for my daughter when I came across this thing. It came with my original Genesis 1000 grill. 
LMichaels
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The screws will come out fairly easily. The trick is twofold. First the proper driver helps, second is bracing the manifold and use the power of "impact". Either a small impact type screwdriver (the kind you tap with a hammer) or just tapping the back of the screwdriver with a small machinist hammer. You'd be amazed how easily they come out. Honestly I get not taking them apart but, it's really not the best way.
Josh Dekubber
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I've taken several of them apart and haven't had an issue yet.
If this method works for Steve and they run smooth afterwards it seems like a practical option.
Josh Dekubber
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It's nice to clean and swab out the grime and apply some high temp Grease. I understand that but on the other hand they don't seem very finicky. They seem to run pretty smooth with very little maintenance for several decades.