Genesis E-310 eroding lid (Underside layer)

[Erez Levin]

I recently bought a Weber Genesis E-310 secondhand. The underside of the lid (the inside/lower aluminum-like layer) has eroded at the edges, and is flaking down on my food when I cook.

Any thoughts on my best course of action?

Should I look for a replacement lid, and is there another model that would fit?

Or should I just remove that inner aluminum layer entirely? Any major downsides to that approach?

Thanks!

 

[Bruce]

I would rip it out. If your lid is Stainless Steel, you might find it discolors when using the grill on high heat. If it is ceramic coated (colored) then it should not be an issue to remove the liner. That is a common problem.

 

[Kelly C]

Welcome to the forum Erez! I would suggest calling Weber (with the serial # handy) to hear what they say. How old is the grill?

 

[Bruce]

Just to be clear. The warranties on these grills are intended to be used by only the original owner. It is clearly stated in the warranty. Yes, you can call and pretend to be the first owner, and likely get warranty service if you so choose.

 

[Samuel]

Yes call Weber their lids have a pretty long warranty.

 

[Stefan H]

You can call Weber but don't be too optimistic. As Bruce stated the warranty only applies to the initial owner of the grill and is not nontransferable to subsequent owners. On top of that Weber discontinued their generous warranty with the introduction of these E-xxx and S-xxx Genesis models.
If I recall correctly the warranty was only 3 years on everything.
But you can remove the inner liner. It is only bolted in. If it is an enameled lid you really don't need it anyhow. The older Genesis grills never had it on the enameled lids. If the lid is a SS lid it will discolor over time without the inner liner. But even that is just cosmetic. And no, you cannot buy the inner liner only. Weber only sells the whole lid wich would cost you a few hundred dollars.

 

[Erez Levin]

Thanks for the responses! I assumed b/c it's a rather old grill (at least 5 if not closer to 10 years) and that I'm not the original owner, I won't get much from contacting Weber. Only reason I might is to ask if another model's lid would fit, should I choose to replace it.

Glad to know that there are no issues with removing that liner. The lid/grill is black on the outside, so hopefully I won't see any of that discoloration, but I'm less concerned with the cosmetics anyway especially since I keep it covered when not in use.

I'll update this thread after I remove the liner and fire it up a few times. Happy grilling to you all this MDW!

 

[LMichaels]

Just take out the inner layer. It's useless anyway

 

[Jon Tofte]

I think the inner layer was put in there by Weber for two reasons. One, on stainless hoods to mitigate the outer stainless heat and "bluing" effect. The second reason you now see them on all Weber grills, I think, is that Weber got tired of explaining to people how carbon build-up on the inside slick porcelain was not paint but rather carbon. The metal used on these liners gets black, but it does not exhibit the sheets of shiny carbon peeling off like porcelain does. Instead it rusts out and falls on your food .

I would be more accepting of Weber's decision if they made this liner easy to replace and sold them like other replaceable parts.

 

[Bruce]

Agreed Jon. I think it is also a form of "insulation" in holding in heat as well. On the electric Q grills, they have an aluminum liner in the lid and cook box and it is clearly there to help keep the heat from radiating away through the grill body. The electric system takes longer to heat up and hold temps if the lid is opened too much or too long. I think the liners in them are to help hold some of that heat in and get them up to temp and hold temps longer.

 

[Chris Kay]

I would rip it out. If your lid is Stainless Steel, you might find it discolors when using the grill on high heat. If it is ceramic coated (colored) then it should not be an issue to remove the liner. That is a common problem.

Someone said they are bolts in but on my Genesis special edition don't see bolts in the 4 corners just these flat flanges. Can you please explain how to remove. Maybe a different process on different models.

 

[Bruce]

Chris, maybe some photos will help? That way we know exactly what you are dealing with.

 

[Chris Kay]

Just got it done, took off thermometer, handle and sign and just started prying away. Those tabs holding it in were not flat flanges like I posted but rather round studs. Thought I would clean it while I was around at it. Weber really dropped the ball with this and the service was terrible. They wanted me to provide proof of purchase although registered it back when I purchased it with all documentation. I now could find the receipt so basically they said too bad. That's' twice now in a short period of time they basically have said too bad. My old silver genesis with side burner in good shape but needed a new valve as the threads were stripped and the hex nut as well. So I called them up looking other buy the parts and they said sorry discontinued. So then I said is there any way to change the setup with something newer and they replied we wouldn't advise that. So I said what it's garbage now? The reply was not sure why to tell you sir. I use to have no issues and no questions asked when having a problem but now the service is just average at best when they use to excel. I own 4 Weber grills and thought the loyalty alone should count for something. Also their product is not as high quality. Rust issues, thinner gauge material all around and the price keeps going up which I can understand but hey put out a quality product and stand by it like in the past. My afternoon rant lol.