Aarrgh! I hate Whirlpool!


 
Pablo Hoco said:
Delivered and installed. Wife is happy. Kids are happy (they don’t have to hand wash).

Quick q: the installer said that when loading dirty dishes, I WANT to have a bit of food left on there to activate the soap. Never heard this before. We always rinse and knock off pretty much most/all food in the sink before loading.

Any truth to that?

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Ours was so quiet that you needed that light shining on the floor to know it was running.
 
When I first bought my Kitchenaid rated at 39 dBA, it was opened several times until the family learned to look at the light to see if it was running.

During thanksgiving dinner cleanup, one of my extended family opened it while running twice within a couple of minutes and we had a good laugh at his expense.

Once you get used to a very quiet dishwasher, you'll NEVER be happy with a noisy one.

If / when my KA falls over I'll likely replace it with a Bosch.
 
I run Bosh dishwashers and don’t see me changing anytime soon.
I think the one at our waterfront house is old enough to be one of the first ones and it still is running strong.

I’ve seen what the insulation looks like on lesser brands and it does not compare.
I also like the “tube in shell” heat exchanger over that stupid heating element that some others use that seems to enjoy damaging things.
 
I never knew about leaving food on. I read it and had to literally argue with my wife to not "wash" the dishes before "washing" them. Before leaving a them dirty we had etched glassware and other small issues. Suddenly now, glassware is sparkling clean, no etching and so on. Not only that, we've been using Cascade Liquid wash. We have softened water as well. We have pared the amount of detergent needed to literally just a few drops
BTW our Bosch is very quiet BUT it has no indicator light because it has the front controls. But, what noise it does make it gurgling from the drain pump in the sink. Quite loud
 
Never heard to leave food on the dishes to make it work, hard water and to much detergent etches glassware. sensor clean helps with that problem as I read it shortens cycle with less food particles detected. Just replaced our DW due to control board issue, over $100 for a board and was going to go cheap again but found a Maytag I liked. wife said everything has fell apart this year, washer/dryer/dishwasher/me , told her to hold it down so the fridge didn't hear :ROFLMAO:, shoulder surgery was in April still hurts but it's slowly getting better, Dr said it would take up to a year. about to pound it with dove opener this weekend, may end up shooting left handed. Little over $500 and was going $300 or so. some of the parts are 10 year warranty.
 
Yep we figured that out. Our glassware was etching like crazy in our Bosch with those pods (even the ones recommended by Bosch). We started using 3 or 4 drops (yes DROPS) of Cascade liquid detergent. Everything comes out absolutely sparkling clean, no visible etching. But we're using water being run through our softener and a filter. So, we cut way back. And used only 3 or 4 drops. We also use the rinse aid. All foo
 
LMichaels said:
Yep we figured that out. Our glassware was etching like crazy in our Bosch with those pods (even the ones recommended by Bosch). We started using 3 or 4 drops (yes DROPS) of Cascade liquid detergent. Everything comes out absolutely sparkling clean, no visible etching. But we're using water being run through our softener and a filter. So, we cut way back. And used only 3 or 4 drops. We also use the rinse aid. All foo
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Sadly, I can't convince my better half that we're using too much detergent (we have very soft water), and I've also noted that it has gotten darn hard to find anything besides the pods in our area, :(.
 
We have run a WS for the last 12-15 years, glad I seen this thread again need to pu salt lol. Soft water is a great thing, had a customer with well water from over 400' down, the salt wouldn't melt, demanded I change computer, finally got a test kit in and cked his water, straight from the well and before I could add drops it already turned blue indicating soft water,
 
So, I don't get it. Was the water soft straight from the well or the softener was actually working? I have heard of wells that gave soft water though IDK why or how it could happen
 
<scratches head> Water at the farm where I grew up comes from 200-400' deep wells in sand, and is moderately hard. The farmhouse has a Kinetico softener.
 
Dead soft without anything being treated. it is up on the mountain and would have thought hard water, I have seen some ugly water in the Hills above Knoxville.
 
LMichaels said:
Panasonic does not make an over the range MWave. I wish they did. I'd buy one.
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They used to make them. You can find second hand ones on craigslist.
I know because I bought and installed one a few years ago at a house that we rented, back in Vancouver.
I know that a used, 10-15 years old microwave does not sound like a good option but I think it's better than newer options.
 
Just when things were going smoothly... The Whirlpool microwave I replaced 2 years ago with the same model because of the built-in kit has decided to not open the door most of the times you push the button. Same trash, different problem. Should have kept the old one for parts. I sent them a 500 character message voicing my dissatisfaction. They need to increase that limit.
 
Whirlpool answered my message to them about the quality if their microwave. Nothing in the reply encourages me to stick with them.


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I have had customers show me about the same wording from most of the manufactures. nothing is made as well as it was 20 years ago. If folks had bashed on the makers years ago instead of the folks selling them we all would be better off, it's changed so much now I am not sure we will ever get the quality back that we had. New whirlpool dishwasher is doing great after I read the users manual, on quick wash you have to hit dry also, if not they might be damp :ROFLMAO:
 
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