Russ, I made that trip quite a few times during the 2 1/2 years we lived in Hesperus! That's a full day to say the least...took me and Cody (my Roti mix at the time..he was a serious "Road Toad"!) 3 hrs 45 minutes one way from Hesperus. It was fun, though. Funny thing - there was a Sam's Club...