What to do when you screw up and your pizza sticks


 
I tried JB Weld on a radiator tank, at 212* it started leaking. I think the steel is the way to go, I'm sure my stone will crack and I will get a steel then. Semolina is supposed to be the magic trick, I have sticking with flour and when I use enough that it doesn't stick it's way too much flour. I bought semolina but haven't used it yet.
 
Tomorrow pizza may get delayed or cancelled as when I went to get my stone off the grill I noticed a crack. As I was scraping the burnt cheese off the stone it cracked in two. I just ordered a steel but it will not be here for about a week. Can I cook on a broken stone?
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call your local metal fab shop. 14.5x16 3/8" A36 steel, with rounded and beveled edges is around $65. that's what i paid for my custom fabbed steel. absofreaking love it. no rebound time, cooks very efficiently, need sless hear than a stone and will not crack.

and it makes a great flatop too (smash burgers).
 
I use the mat, too, but I dust it lightly with flour first, rub it in, and then keep the crust moving as I shape it...then, with the left hand on or over the left side of the shaped dough, use the other hand to flip the right half of the crust over the back of your left hand and transfer it to the peel that way.
Actually, that's not quite true...here lately, I've been using a 13" pan left over from the days when my wife worked at Pizza Hut to shape the crust. This pic is from a crust that I parbaked, but I use the pan to shape the crust, then do the flip like in the video to transfer it to the wooden peel. It's easier to clean the pan than it is to clean the mat, but if you buy one of the aluminum pans like in the video (they are cheap), you can use that for shaping, too.

EDIT: Pizza was good, but a little too bread-like, so we abandoned parbaking for the moment.
 

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I use the mat, too, but I dust it lightly with flour first, rub it in, and then keep the crust moving as I shape it...then, with the left hand on or over the left side of the shaped dough, use the other hand to flip the right half of the crust over the back of your left hand and transfer it to the peel that way.
So you "build" the pie on the peel after shaping on the mat? I did dust the mat but did not keep it moving. Do you have a metal or wood peel? I saw something that said a wooden peel is best for putting the pizza in and metal for taking it off.
 
When I'm doing a bunch of pies they all go on parchment. The parchment burns somewhere above 500F so only leave it on for a minute or two, then I pull it and rotate the pizza a quarter turn. I trim the parchment with scissors to a 1/4 to 1/2 inch from the edge, except for a small tab to help pull it out.

Some in my family don't like the cornmeal on the crust so the parchment takes that out of play.

For me, I don't mind cornmeal and if its my pie, i's usually the last pie of the night so while I'm topping the pie the stone is recovering heat and I go without parchment and use cornmeal. I don't know if it makes a difference or not on the crispiness, but I like it this way.

I'd use semolina but that's hard to find right now.
wooden peel, rub flour onto peel. shape pie (either on peel or a work surface, i use a large Corain cutoff i got 26 year ago), place pie on peel. shimmy pie shell to ensure non stick. dress pie. shimmy pie again to ensure non stick. add cheese and shimmy again so you know it'll launch. hold peet at 15-20 degrees at cook serface and gently get it to slide. let pizza mount onto stone/steel and then pull back peel. pizza is now launched on stone/steel.

OR, buy pizza screens. shape pie. place pie shell atop screen. dress pie, top pie, place screened pie atop steel/stone and cook for 4-5 minutes. then deck the pie (remove the screen once the dough is fully set) and crisp pie bottom and develop color on pie.

wood peel: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B009LPDNPO/?tag=tvwb-20

pizza screens: i own three of these, https://www.amazon.com/dp/B001CIEJZG/?tag=tvwb-20

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When I'm doing a bunch of pies they all go on parchment. The parchment burns somewhere above 500F so only leave it on for a minute or two, then I pull it and rotate the pizza a quarter turn. I trim the parchment with scissors to a 1/4 to 1/2 inch from the edge, except for a small tab to help pull it out.

Some in my family don't like the cornmeal on the crust so the parchment takes that out of play.

For me, I don't mind cornmeal and if its my pie, it is usually the last pie of the night so while I'm topping the pie the stone is recovering heat and I go without parchment and use cornmeal. I don't know if it makes a difference or not on the crispiness, but I like it this way.

I'd use semolina but that's hard to find right now.
I have been using parchment religiously for a few years since I made my last "unintentional Stromboli. I am not sure if I forgot, had a brain fart, or just wanted to try to do it without this time. I like the idea of trying to pull out the parchment during the cook. Could be fun and dangerous.
 
call your local metal fab shop. 14.5x16 3/8" A36 steel, with rounded and beveled edges is around $65. that's what i paid for my custom fabbed steel. absofreaking love it. no rebound time, cooks very efficiently, need sless hear than a stone and will not crack.

and it makes a great flatop too (smash burgers).
Good idea but the one from Amazon is on the was and it was less than $40.
 
I like the idea of trying to pull out the parchment during the cook. Could be fun and dangerous.

when I'm cooking on the E6, or my gas grill or even in my electric oven, there tends to be a hot-side so I need to rotate the pie anyway. I wear gloves when the lid of the E6 opens...
 
So you "build" the pie on the peel after shaping on the mat? I did dust the mat but did not keep it moving. Do you have a metal or wood peel? I saw something that said a wooden peel is best for putting the pizza in and metal for taking it off.
We have both, and if you build the pie on the metal peel, condensation can form between the crust and the peel causing it to stick so you need to move fast and avoid pressing down on the crust when saucing and cheesing. Wood is more forgiving in that regard. I usually form the crust in the air and let gravity do the stretching, like the steering wheel on a car.

EDIT: That's one of the best parts of pizza...you get to eat (and enjoy!) your mistakes! Also, I use a 4"x8" hamburger turner to turn/move the pizza (don't need to turn the pizza when you have a turntable, but I do move it away from the back burner when one side gets more done than the other), but use whatever works for you. (to avoid confusion, I have a Halo pizza oven)
 
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Good idea but the one from Amazon is on the was and it was less than $40.
Joe, that link you posted shows a $14 delivery charge...maybe it's just delivery to my location and yours is free, I dunno.
 

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Some in my family don't like the cornmeal on the crust so the parchment takes that out of play.

For me, I don't mind cornmeal and if its my pie, it is usually the last pie of the night so while I'm topping the pie the stone is recovering heat and I go without parchment and use cornmeal. I don't know if it makes a difference or not on the crispiness, but I like it this way.

I'd use semolina but that's hard to find right now.

I bought some at WinCo a couple of months ago...maybe check the bulk foods section at the one near you? If not, give rice flour a try. I found some at Vons in the international section (I think). I actually prefer it...
 

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I bought some at WinCo a couple of months ago...maybe check the bulk foods section at the one near you?

Thanks, There's a WinCo not far from me. I'll check it out.

I bought the last one Kilo bag of Caputo Semolina at a Nugget near me a little while ago, but haven't been able to find it before or since. None of the other stores near me carry it, and Whole Paycheck has been out of stock every time I check.

00 Caputo Red or Blue has also been hit and miss to find.
 
Thanks, There's a WinCo not far from me. I'll check it out.

I bought the last one Kilo bag of Caputo Semolina at a Nugget near me a little while ago, but haven't been able to find it before or since. None of the other stores near me carry it, and Whole Paycheck has been out of stock every time I check.

00 Caputo Red or Blue has also been hit and miss to find.
That might not be a bad thing. I've been trying different flours...All-Trumps, Kyrol, even the WinCo bulk. How you gonna know what you like if you don't experiment? Buy a pound for $0.73 and try it. I've got Smart & Final on my list, too.

EDIT: Oh, yeah, WinCo also has the vital wheat gluten in bulk, too...
 

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Joe, that link you posted shows a $14 delivery charge...maybe it's just delivery to my location and yours is free, I dunno.
Crap - I am really not paying attention today. You are correct. $51.6 with delivery. I am not sure what I would have found locally, but it was a good idea to check around. Live and learn. Not the costliest mistake I have made by far!
 
Crap - I am really not paying attention today. You are correct. $51.6 with delivery. I am not sure what I would have found locally, but it was a good idea to check around. Live and learn. Not the costliest mistake I have made by far!
Yeah, a 16 in. sq. plate weighs about 16#, a 3/8" plate will weigh about 24#. Shipping costs are going to be significant. Why not try a cast iron pan while you are deciding? Like you said, you can always throw it on the stove to finish it off if needed...

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