Well I went back and looked at what I saw in the store, Weber part # 6512. I think thery are new stock, but they are nothing like the one in the master touch or in the the pictures, not curved and a good fit up to the edge of the grill. They stood up on two legs and only about 1.5" high. Could not get them more then a little off center on the grill. I think big diappiontment when compared to the one that comes with Master Touch.