Turkey Smoke advice


 

doug gillis

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saw a 9.5 lb turkey "honeysucle white" and had to get it as don't find many turkeys or smaller ones this time of the yr in stores around here. Do I need to "brine" as I've only smoked two birds prev. and didn't? Also, What temp should I strive for in smoking? I'm thinking that anything beyond the 250 deg. range is out of smoking range here. I'm wondering what are the benefits of brining and why? On my prev. two turkey smokes- before I had a wsm, I just rubbed bird down in mayo believe it or not then vigorously shook black pepper/seasoning salt over it and it came out nicely. Any advice would be appreciated.
 
Welcome Doug,

You don't need to brine, it's a preference thing. It alters the proteins and can help give you a more moist end product. This buys you some insurance against overcooking and drying out the bird. It can also change the texture, some people like it some people don't. If you brine it for a very long time in a strong enough solution it becomes very 'hammy'.

You can flavor brine as well. This is adding flavors to the brine instead of just salt sugar and water. Look around the reference topics on this website as well as the recipes section (Poultry Recipes).

As for cooking there is no real benefit to cooking a bird in the BBQ range (225-250). Some cuts of beef and pork DO benefit from the low and slow (brisket and shoulder for example). This isn't to say it's wrong, you can do a turkey in that range if you want to. It will take a long time, can dry the meat out and can remain unpleasantly pink particularly around the joints. Brining is a good idea if you plan on cooking it in this range.

On the WSM I'd suggest you cook it over two fully lit chimneys of charcoal (hot smoke) with or without an empty/full water pan. Water in the pan will reduce your temperature, but you avoid excessive drippings smoke. An empty water pan will smoke like crazy in this configuration as well. I personally don't like too much poultry drippings smoke.
 
Thanks Shawn for the quick reply. I think I'll do an unbrined turkey with a water pan for moisture and keep vents open to get heat up. My old smoker once used didn't have bottom vents and with a water pan- 220 was about the tops it would do but only for a short time! That isn't the problem anymore w/ the wsm. I ususally have on the wsm been using two chimney starter loads- 1st one unlit then the second lit- minion method but was doing butts and must not confuse low and slow for turkey I guess as they are two very different meats. Thanks again for your advice.
 
Water in the pan will act as a heat sink, moderating a rise in cook temps, but will not add moisture to the meat. If you want a lower heat cook you can use water; for a high heat cook, don't. If you go with an empty waterpan, foil the pan to catch drippings but foil in such a way that there is a good airspace between the foil and the pan. This will lessen burning of the drippings.
 
Great advice Shawn

One thing I would add is to pull the turkey (especially if not brined) at a breast temp no higher than 165º, the thighs should be between 170º-175º. Tent with foil and let rest 30 minutes, then let cool slightly before slicing. Slicing a hot bird will give you dry meat!

If you demand poultry to be cooked to 180º internal temp, then I would highly recommend brining.
 
Hi Doug-

I'm a fair rookie, but I just smoked a small 4 lb turkey breast on Thursday.

I used the Apple Brine recipe from the Cooking Topics section (I love this for both turkey and chicken), and cooked according to the Bone In Turkey Breast recipe under the same section. I followed Chris A.'s technique of smoking at between 325-350 (mostly 350 to hit my target finish time). [I used an empty foiled water pan, with a second layer of foil suspended across the top to catch drippings] I intended to remove from the smoker at an internal of about 162 but didn't catch it until 167, and it was about as "done" as I would have liked it. However, the meat was absolutely delicious, tender, slice-able, and it had a beautiful deep red-brown skin. (I fully intended to take pics, but the girls were rushing me
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) Cook time was only about 1.5 hours, with about a 20 minute rest under a foil tent before slicing.

In short, I had great success brining and smoking at 325-350... but I definitely second the advice to not let it get beyond 165 in the breast. I'm sure you'll get delicious results with a rub instead of a brine, but keep a close eye on the internal temp once it gets close to 160 and test for done-ness every 15 minutes or so. Good luck!!
 
Hi Doug. Look under the poultry recipes and try Keri C's recipe for apple brined turkey. I dont think that you will be disappointed.
 

 

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