Thoughts on Hams?


 
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I was planning on doing a fresh ham for my second cook, I was wondering if anyone had any thoughts about whether to cook with the skin on or off? also any info on wood or size preferences or anything else would be appreciated. thanks.
 
I've never done a ham, so take this for what it's worth. I would think that with the skin on there wouldn't be much point in applying a rub and the smoke wouldn't penetrate for the same reason - can't get through the skin.
 
John is right and ham is a great cut for injecting to help with moisture and flavor.
Hickory and pecan are the tradional choices for wood but cheery and apple are also very good.
I like to cook 10 to 15 pounders at pit temps of 225 to 250?. I normally cook to 145? to 160? internal.
Jim
 
thanks John, That's kinda what i was thinkin but i was also considering the outer part of the ham getting dry and tough. Which would be fine, i'll cut it off and find another use for it, if that's the case
 
Here is a recipe from a friend that is very good. I have used it on fresh hams and it still works very well. I know he would be happy if you were to try it.
Jim


Dr. Chicken?s Double Smoked Ham
Ham should be a fully cooked or partially cooked ? shank variety or can be shoulder variety (water added can be used, as long as the water added does not exceed 23% water added product.) If it is pre-smoked with hickory, that seems to work out best. Patti/Jean or Cooks among the best, but other varieties can be used!

Dr. Chicken?s Sweet Kiss of Death Injectable Marinade
Ingredients:

1 Cup of Good clean water (if your city or well water has an offensive taste, please use bottled water)
1 Cup of light Karo syrup (make sure it is light Karo brand syrup)
1/8 Cup of Amaretto liqueur (use the real stuff it makes a difference)
2 TBS of Watkins brand Butter Pecan extract (this is the only Butter-Pecan extract I could find)
1 TBS of Rum extract (again, I used Watkins because of the better taste than store bought)
1 tsp of Orange extract (this compliments the orange juice concentrate used in the glaze or basting sauce)
1 to 2 TBS Vanilla extract (again, I used Watkins because of taste after the first run)

Directions for blending:

Into a medium size sauce pan add the water, Karo syrup and Amaretto. Stir frequently and heat very slowly to avoid scorching the sugars in the syrup.
Then, add all the remaining ingredients and continue to stir and heat slowly. When the mix looks uniform in color and smooth, remove mix from the stove and allow it to cool to almost room temperature.

Directions for use:

Wrap ham in 2 layers of plastic wrap before starting the injection process.


Using a marinade hypodermic syringe, inject at least 2 fluid ozs. Per pound of meat in a grid pattern through out the entire ham and don?t be afraid to use up to 3 ounces per pound of meat.

Continue to inject the marinade into the ham until the entire amount of marinade is injected evenly into the ham.

Cook the ham as shown in the ?Double Smoked Ham? recipe. Be sure to you your favorite wood for smoke flavoring.

Do not cook the ham beyond 145? internal to prevent over cooking and drying out the ham.


Glazing Sauce:
? cup brown sugar
? cup maple syrup (use dark grade B real maple syrup if available)(dark grade B has more flavor than grade A)
? cup honey
2 Tbsp cider vinegar
1 ? 2 Tbsp Worcestershire sauce
2 Tbsp instant coffee granules (use a good brand because it makes a difference)
1 Tbsp dry ground mustard
2 Tbsp orange juice concentrate (a good brand provides better flavor)
Blend all ingredients in a sauce pan with a wire whip and heat slightly until everything combines into a viscous or thick looking sauce.
Cooking instructions:
Score outer skin of ham to a depth of ? inch in a crisscross diamond pattern. This will allow the glazing sauce to penetrate below the skin, into the actual ham. Place ham (un-glazed) into a shallow roasting pan or roasting rack. If pineapple and cherries are desired on the outside, add them when you start the glazing process. Cook in oven @ 275? ? 300? with a loose tent of aluminum foil over the top for 25 to 30 minutes per lb. Baste with glazing sauce the last hour of cooking time and continue to cook until the ham reaches an internal temperature of 140?. Remove from oven and allow to sit covered for 20 to 30 minutes before carving!
Cooking instructions for outdoor cooking:
This can be done on a grill over indirect heat or in a water smoker or other type of cooker, again over indirect heat or ?low & slow? type cooking. Do not tent over ham if done on grill, water smoker or other cooker; this would prevent smoke from penetrating the ham.
Place water soaked chunks of mesquite, hickory or pecan (we prefer the smoke of pecan over all the others) on coals 5 minutes before putting ham on cooker. This will allow the ham to obtain maximum smoke flavor during the second cook cycle. ( the first cook cycle is the cycle the processor uses.) If even more smoke flavor is desired, place ham in freezer for 1 to 1 ? hours prior to cooking to allow outer edges of ham to start to freeze. Go easy on this procedure; you don?t want the ham frozen hard!
Maintain temperature of cooker/grill at 225? to 275? during cook cycle.
If using a water smoker, fill water pan ? full with hot water and add 2 cups of orange, pineapple, or orange/pineapple mix, sweetened grapefruit or apple juice to the water. (all of them act as tenderizer as the steam penetrates the meat.) (I use a ? full drip pan when cooking on the Eggs, filled with a 50:50 mix of water and orange juice.)
Again, cook for 25 to 30 minutes per lb. until internal temp on the ham shows 140?. A couple of books suggest 145? and 160? respectively. Shirley O. Corriher in her book ?CookWise? suggests 140?. We found this to be exactly right. After removing from the Egg, it will climb up to 145? internally. The ham will retain it moistness and the flavor will go thru out the ham this way.
Baste ham with glazing sauce every 10 to 15 minutes during the last hour of cooking time. Glazing compound will burn, so do not start glazing the ham until the internal temp of the ham reaches 120?.
NOTE: The secret to this process is plenty of smoke and the real maple syrup and granular coffee crystals in the glazing sauce. Use a cheaper cut of ham like mentioned before, and people will think you bought an expensive ham that you had to ?hock? your kids for! Yuk! Yuk! (see my pun there?) The glazing sauce will give the ham a fantastic taste, smell and color!

Dr. Chicken (aka: Dave Spence)
 
Jim,

Many thanks!!! That sounds delicious!!! I'm on my way to the store to get me a ham right now.
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Mark WAR EAGLE!!
 
More inexperienced advice, I've heard people talk of scoring the skin on pork shoulders to get the rub and smoke to where it's gonna do some good. Maybe that'd work with a ham?
 
When I only had a Weber Kettle I would use indirect heat & this easy recipe for basting ....Thanx to my buddy Steven!

2 oz soy sauce
3 oz honey
3 oz E.V. olive oil
3 oz Jack Daniels
1/2 small jar of jam preserves (plum)

Can't wait to try it with the smoker.
 
Jim, that recipe sounds awesome! thank you.
I'm gonna give it a try sometime this week, when i don't have to be bothered by work. Thanks to everyone else's input as well
 
I think I object to all this discussion about cooking and eating hams /infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif .

sam
ham callsign: KC?LTU
 
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