This is how I ( repair ) the rusty frame rail that the bolt goes through to the cook box .....purist just look away


 

JimV

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I am just posting this for some of you that are not doing museum pieces. Not all of my resto's are numbers matching perfect. Most of the time I am refitting the grill with new parts a good cleaning and some fresh paint. I am sorry to say there is likely rust inside my frame that I will never see and thats just fine with me.
So many of our flips have this problem of the cross bar being all rusted out. Well usually its just a blown out hole but plenty of good metal still left on this cross bar. Bruce's method is the ( correct ) way of repairing this issue......but my way gets the job done too....just not as sayyyyy correct.
I work for a retail company and I have access to a lot of metal scrap from old displays.......I use the metal scrap for bottom shelves and cross bars. Some of this metal scrap is basically angle iron.
Step 1. Grind and clean rusted area....spray w rust converter...let dry....spray w rustoleum up in tube as much as u can so u can sleep at night.
Step 1. Cut 2 angle iron pieces to 15 1/2 shy
Step 2. Clamp both pieces opposing each other to form a square over the damaged bar.
Step 3. Drill through 4 holes....install Stainless Steel bolts...washers...nuts....and tighten.
Step 4. I hope on step 3 you painted inside those fresh drilled holes cause they are gunna rust :(
Step 5. spray a tack coat on the repair and your done for the evening.......I ended up spraying a tack coat on the entire frame so it was good progress.
I will include pics in case anyone wants to try this method. The bolt heads look factory to me....you dont have to use big bolt heads you could use carriage bolts but I just didnt care.
 
here ya go
 

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and anotha'
 

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Wait for it
 

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Bravo, JimV. Great post.
Very useful mod, detailed descriptions,
with pics as well.
Bonus points for tongue in cheek humor to
remind all of us that we are just rehabbing
grills. No rocket science degrees required.
 
Thanks Dave......I knew the purist were gunna have a tough time with it....... :) But hopefully it will save someone's back yard grill from the dump.
 
Jim: So, did you basically "wrap" the old cross member in between two pieces of angle iron?
 
Hey Bruce
Yes basically I wrap the tube with angle iron. I like to think of it as a through bolted splint. There aint no way it will every break due to it now has the original metal to still rust through....and 2 additional pieces of metal that it would have to chew through. The original metal is grinded ...cleaned...and treated first.
 
Yah, that angle iron is probably two to three times as thick as the original cross member steel. I totally like that idea for a personal functional grill, but I wouldn't do that for a flip even though it is essentially a permanent fix.
The only question I have is does that slight bit of extra thickness against the cook box move the cook box to the right enough to affect the placement of the valves in the control panel?
 
Answer to your question......it didnt on the last one....there is some wiggle room. This is a deep box red head so we shall see in the coming days. I seem to remember something goofy about these deep boxes when I disassembled that was different from the normal silver B's.......but I have a grinder....duct tape......and a hammer.....it will fit. :)
 
Let me zoom in....it was done on the Silver C as I recall
 

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Jim, yours is way more professional than my fix, but it has lasted a year and a half. Got the square steel and the inserts now to do a Bruce fix this summer.
 

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Yep anything to keep the ole Webers from crumbling away. I also ordered a 10pack of the " Bruce " tube inserts today but I ordered them for the lower support bars on an old 1000....my grill has a case of the leans.
 
LOL, I just welded up a grill frame cross member today. I just primed it. I haven't painted it yet.

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Ya now welding is a whole new trick! I bought those Alumi Weld sticks.......dumb question but will they work with steel? They are pretty easy to use. I thought I bought the " Bruce " inserts but I bought the other double star looking things called threaded tube connectors. They should work fine as well. I just copied it from a link and ordered real quick while I was in a parking lot.
 

 

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