Thinking about retiring the old girl


 
LarryR

LarryR

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After what I figure is at least 16 or 17 years of service I fear it's time to retire my Genesis 1000. Rebuilt her around 4 years ago and she worked great after but I've noticed this year she just isn't the same, side near the knobs is hot, other side cool.

Lots of great memories with the old girl, going to be tough to see her go.

Leaning towards another Genesis. Any other thoughts or suggestions?
 
Nah, just don't have the time to fiddle with her right now. Might put her in the garage for when things slow down. Don't do much gas cooking (compared to my charcoal) but I do like the convenience from time to time.
 
If you have the cash, get a new Genesis. I think it's the 330 that has a sear burner. My S-320 is only a couple years old and I'm thinking of trading up. I'd give the old one to a friend or family member that would appreciate a project. I'm trying to find a good used gasser right now to give to my daughter/son-in-law. Circle of life.
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I've decided to hold on to her and rebuild her again when I have some time. At this time I'm leaning towards the 320, don't know that I'd use the sear burner. My buddy Ed C. has one and he reports he never uses it. Also if I'm doing steaks I'm usually doing them on my ceramic vs. the gasser. I mainly use my gasser for veggies, chicken and burgers/dogs.
 
Larry,I have the E310,the one without the side or sear burner. Love it! I do most of my grilling on it. The OTS,I use for tri tips, spatched chickens and paella.
 
Just my $.02 Most folks usually cook on one side of gasser and ignore the other. That is why after time one side is burning different than the other. A good cleaning and a little TLC can save you lots of $$ to be spent on something you don't have........unless you are itching for a new gasser and cash is free. Then get it. You only live once and there are NO U-Hauls behind the hearses!
 
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Rob M:
You only live once and there are NO U-Hauls behind the hearses! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I beg to differ
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by LarryR:
I've decided to hold on to her and rebuild her again when I have some time. </div></BLOCKQUOTE> IMO the right decision of the non-consumable parts (shell, frame, manifold and so on) are all in good shape.

It might be something simple like a spider web in the burner tube or some partial plugging of the holes in the burner. Perhaps the flavorizer bars need to be reversed end for end or debris in the bottom housing cleaned out.
 
I'm glad I posted here. Based on comments I think over Labor Day I'm going to spend a day in the backyard with her and some ice cold beer and give her a good cleaning top to bottom. I will also brush the burner holes good.

If this doesn't do the trick I'll put her out to pasture and get a shiny new Genesis. Thanks everyone!
 
I have a Genesis 1000 that I rebuilt last year or the year before with new everything inside including the regulator and it burns hotter closer to the knobs than on the other side. There is quite a bit of difference. I also usually only use the two outer burners but even if I use all three, it is the same story.

Does anyone know what could be causing this?

Wayne
 
Wayne or anyone else with a Red or colored 1000 lid.

Save it and look for a decent condition Genesis Silver B or C and swap out lids. Webers live on!
 
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Wayne Dimirsky:
I have a Genesis 1000 that I rebuilt last year or the year before with new everything inside including the regulator and it burns hotter closer to the knobs than on the other side. There is quite a bit of difference. I also usually only use the two outer burners but even if I use all three, it is the same story.

Does anyone know what could be causing this?

Wayne </div></BLOCKQUOTE>Hi Wayne,
Even distribution depends on the surface area of the burner holes being much less than the surface area of the burner tube itself. If that is not the case, then there will be a pressure drop along the burner tube and as you get toward the end, flow through the burner holes will be less due to less pressure pushing the gas through the holes. (I hope this makes sense.)

I can think of two areas that could affect this off hand.

1) The burner holes are too large. This seems unlikely if you have replaced the burner tubes, but could be possible if the tubes have been cleaned and something poked in the holes that would enlarge them.

2) Partial obstruction of the burner tube. If there is dust and debris coating the inside of the tube from years of use, it could partially obstruct flow and result in excess pressure drop. Similarly, if there are spider webs in the burner tubes due to missing spider guards, this could happen in new tubes in a relatively short time.

3) (OK, three things.
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) If the wrong manifold and orifices is installed, it could result in excess flow that could result in an excess pressure drop through the tube at high settings. If this is the case, I would think that the flame distribution would be better when the burner is turned down. Turning down the burner would tend to mask the previous two issues as well.

4) (One more thing... ) If the burner tubes were poorly manufactured resulting in larger holes closer to the inlet end, there would be uneven distribution at all turn down settings. I would consider this the least likely possibility.

Perhaps someone else has solved this problem and can chime in with other suggestions.

HTH,
hank
 
I rebuilt my old 1000 several years ago, including making new wood slats, and she is running like a champ. Not all parts seem to be available, so now I will need to fabricate a new igniter push rod. Good luck.
 
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by John Frailey:
I rebuilt my old 1000 several years ago, including making new wood slats, and she is running like a champ. Not all parts seem to be available, so now I will need to fabricate a new igniter push rod. Good luck. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

My guess is that you could retro-fit a newer igniter. Can't imagine that it would be that much different. Even if it were, you could mount a new one somewhere and if necessary, drill a hole in the box to mount the spark end near a burner.
 
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Hank B:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Wayne Dimirsky:
I have a Genesis 1000 that I rebuilt last year or the year before with new everything inside including the regulator and it burns hotter closer to the knobs than on the other side. There is quite a bit of difference. I also usually only use the two outer burners but even if I use all three, it is the same story.

Does anyone know what could be causing this?

Wayne </div></BLOCKQUOTE>Hi Wayne,
Even distribution depends on the surface area of the burner holes being much less than the surface area of the burner tube itself. If that is not the case, then there will be a pressure drop along the burner tube and as you get toward the end, flow through the burner holes will be less due to less pressure pushing the gas through the holes. (I hope this makes sense.)

I can think of two areas that could affect this off hand.

1) The burner holes are too large. This seems unlikely if you have replaced the burner tubes, but could be possible if the tubes have been cleaned and something poked in the holes that would enlarge them.

2) Partial obstruction of the burner tube. If there is dust and debris coating the inside of the tube from years of use, it could partially obstruct flow and result in excess pressure drop. Similarly, if there are spider webs in the burner tubes due to missing spider guards, this could happen in new tubes in a relatively short time.

3) (OK, three things.
icon_wink.gif
) If the wrong manifold and orifices is installed, it could result in excess flow that could result in an excess pressure drop through the tube at high settings. If this is the case, I would think that the flame distribution would be better when the burner is turned down. Turning down the burner would tend to mask the previous two issues as well.

4) (One more thing... ) If the burner tubes were poorly manufactured resulting in larger holes closer to the inlet end, there would be uneven distribution at all turn down settings. I would consider this the least likely possibility.

Perhaps someone else has solved this problem and can chime in with other suggestions.

HTH,
hank </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Hi Hank,
I forgot I even responded to this post and just found your reply. Everything inside is new including a new regulator since this problem was there from the beginning. I bought the regulator from Weber so I'm assuming it is the correct one but who knows. All of the spider gaurds are new and in place.

I don't put the burner on very high since this thing really heats up. I have just learned to live with the temperature differences on both sides.

Wayne
 
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