Thanx from Colorado!!


 
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Jay Pierce

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GAfternoon Folks,

Just discovered this community while looking to ID an older Weber Genesis. Looks like an Awesome resource for many, ESP for someone like me that likes to tinker. First off, I'm a recovering Auto/Truck/Equipment mechanic, that relocated from MA to CO. Presently working at a Golf Course out here. I've been a long time Weber Grill owner, having bought 5/6 new models over the years. But for the past 3/4 years, I've been picking up cheap/free/road finds and restoring them. I'll use them for a bit, then sell or donate to a friend or family member. I enjoy it, saves these great units from the landfill And keeps me outa the Bars. Ok, enough of that. The path that lead me here was a recent purchase of a Weber Genesis Gold. Unfortunately, the tag was vaporized and I'd never seen this model before. First off, It's a natural gas model, which I intend to convert to LP Bottle. Found an online kit that looks reasonably priced, but had no model number to be positive. What I KNOW so far:
Wber Genesis Gold (Plate on Hood)
Natural Gas
Long Chassis, as it's side manifold and has a side Burner,
Has NO Flip up shelves
Blue Mica Color Lid AND Left Side Tray, Rimmed in grey plastic Trim as well as Lid Handle.
Has Wire Bottom Trays well as Front Condiment Tray, Rather than the wood slats
Does Not have doors on the Bottom under the Fire Box, so it's completely open
It has what I believe to be Ceramic Coated (?) Cooking Grates. NOT cast Iron or Stainless Steel
Has Matching (Chintzy) Cheap Plastic Buttons covering the Ignitor Buttons, which never seem to have positive engagement.

Well that's all I got for now, and came up with possible model numbers of: 55024, 55148 or 55062. I've D/L those owners manuals from the Weber Website and they seem to match what i have, appearing to be manufactured in 2002-2004. US Made Model, not looking as an Export.

If anyone can help narrow it down, I'd be grateful. If not, no worries, I'll be around. Lots of Fantastic Info here!!!

Thanx Again Guys, Taik Soon

Jay
 
Welcome Jay, without a serial number 2002 -2004 is probably as close as you will get although looking for casting dates on the cook box or lid end caps may narrow it down further. Here is a picture of my own 2002 Genesis Gold, yours should look like this unless it has been altered in some way. As far as converting the grill goes, a manifold swap is going to be your best bet.IMG_20250525_135907615.jpg
 
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Welcome, Jay! I can't answer any of your questions because I burn charcoal and wood...

...but is working at/on a golf course as much fun as I've always thought it would be?
 
Joan said:
Hi JAY, WELCOME!!!!!!

What do you like to grill?
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Gevening Joan,
Well, mostly just dinner on Saturday Evening….. nothing fancy, mostly burgers, dogs and Steaks on paydays!!! My go to grill has been the Weber Q series 1200 & 2200, because they’re small, portable and living the bachelor life don’t need a huge grill. Work a lotta hours, so when I crawl home at nite, those little grills heat up fast. But honestly, I’m no chef, I enjoy repairing & restoring as much as anything!!!

Thanx, Jay
 
Brad Olson said:
Welcome, Jay! I can't answer any of your questions because I burn charcoal and wood...

...but is working at/on a golf course as much fun as I've always thought it would be?
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Hey Brad,
Well I certainly enjoy it. I’ve never been a golfer. Just a heavy equipment/truck/car mechanic all my life. But after doing it for 45 years, I’ve slowed down some. Still love wrenching, but Trux are a young man’s game. Golf Course mechanics are a specialty apparently, so the money is great, slower pace as it’s a recreational sport, and Everything is much lighter. An engine swap can be done before lunch…. Where as heavy equipment is measured in weeks and thousands of pounds. But the greens crew is composed of usually very young and retirees… and they work there for the free golf. Usually a laid back atmosphere, everyone gets along and has fun. And honestly, from a mechanical view, a Golf Course has the Largest Variety of equipment in one place as I’ve ever seen. Plus a variety of technologies including:gas, diesel, electric/hybrid electric, hydraulics, pneumatics, computer controls, plus irrigation & GPS SYSTEMS. Not to mention quite a bit of machining to keep everything sharp. So for a geek like me, it’s awesome and pays very well. Plus if I have time to build up a good enough reputation before I die, I could end up on a Very High End Golf Course that pays huge money & Housing on the course. Of course, they own you at that point and there’s no hiding or sick days, but still an awesome job. Wish I knew about it sooner, because I wouldn’t have killed myself doing bulldozer work !!!!!

Thanx, Jay
 
Steve Hoch said:
Welcome Jay, without a serial number 2002 -2004 is probably as close as you will get although looking for casting dates on the cook box or lid end caps may narrow it down further. Here is a picture of my own 2002 Genesis Gold, yours should look like this unless it has been altered in some way. As far as converting the grill goes, a manifold swap is going to be your best bet.View attachment 114101
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Hey Steve, thanx for responding. I had been doing research myself (online, OEM websites) and was getting a variety of answers. That’s why I joined here. I’m involved in many BB’s and feel it’s a great resource from real world people. Of course, like the Web, I need to filter and be aware of who suggests what. But I had seen a “kit” online that offers jets & an LP regulator to change from NG to LP. They also offer a regulator that is “convertible” from NG to LP, by swapping an offset pin in the regulator body, which I find very interesting. It appears that it simply changes spring pressure to alter flow from the 11”WC (?) to 4”WC(?).
I don’t remember the exact numbers, but they sounded correct at the time of reading. I do own a Magnehelic Gauge, so I can verify. The Swapable regulator was only $25+\- The “Kit” with the nozzles (orifices) and LP regulator was only $57. Company is called OUTDOOR GAS PRODUCTS. Kits had 5 star ratings and I figured I couldn’t go wrong and was going to roll the dice. Have you heard of these kits/regulators??

Thanx, Jay
 
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Thanx, Jay
 

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Welcome Jay! I escaped Ma several years ago too. Have a neighbor here who relocated from your area and still speaks fondly of it. Interestingly enough I also had a background in auto, but as a Ford warranty specialist. Like you, my go to grill is a Weber 1200, although my backup is a 2002 Genesis A and a Recteq Bullseye.
You're in the right forum neighborhood, wealth of experience and expertise here.
 
Ok, you have a Genesis Gold from 2000-2001, completely different grill from the 2002 and up model. I've never heard of those conversion parts and from everything I've seen and learned here I wouldn't expect the grill to work properly converted this way.
 
Steve Hoch said:
Ok, you have a Genesis Gold from 2000-2001, completely different grill from the 2002 and up model. I've never heard of those conversion parts and from everything I've seen and learned here I wouldn't expect the grill to work properly converted this way.
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Ok. Great, Thanx.

The website I found is called outdoor gas products.com. I’ve enclosed a pic of the kit Essentially 4 jets and a regulator.

Do you happen to know what the difference in manifolds is between NG & LP??? Besides the obvious jets. Are the actual gas valves different??

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Steve Hoch said:
Yes, the valves themselves are different. That's why these types of conversion kits rarely work the way you would hope. You seem determined to try it though, maybe it will be ok in this case.
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Thanx for answering. This is all part of my research. Weber doesn’t recommend doing a conversion, but declined to say why… whether it’s cost concerns or, more likely, safety concerns. I get it. I don’t consider the investment of $58 outrages, but I’d prefer not to waste money if it’s a loser. It’s much pricier to go from LP to NG. My understanding to this point has been gas flow. Reviews I’ve read (reading between the lines) have been mostly positive. The kits regulator is reduced from 11”WC for NG, to 4”WC for LP. (from memory, not Spex I’ve recorded elsewhere). And it includes new jets but doesn’t give Spex on them. I will measure them during the changeover. I’ve done gas work on other systems and never noticed or had to change out the actual valves. Just jets and regulators. (Or used adjustable regulators). But from the small amount of research I’ve done on this site, swapping manifolds seems to be the most popular option. But the kits I’m planning on using don’t seem to be widely known. And yes, I’ve got hundreds of pounds of fittings & adapters from many years of working on gas/plumbing/hydraulic work. So I just figured in the interest of time, (and money) I’d go with the kit. I’m new to CO, and in this area, NG seems to be prevalent. Although I will check FB & CL for any LP grills of that vintage I could get for short money. And swap manifolds. It’s a beautiful grill, with low operating hours and many new parts. So I’d like to save it. I purchased it for only $50, so either way for another $60-70 I can have a functional unit. I get a bigger thrill out of the restoration than the actual burning of meats anyway….
Hahahaha. Well thanx for your insight, and I’ll post again when I get it “Fired Up”!!!!

Thanx, Jay
 
Steve Hoch said:
Yes, the valves themselves are different. That's why these types of conversion kits rarely work the way you would hope. You seem determined to try it though, maybe it will be ok in this case.
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Hey Steve, Not trying to beat a dead horse, BUT… last night perusing the FaceBook M/P, I found what I Thought was a twin to my Genesis Gold. Located in the same town as I am, AND it’s FREE!!! Dude said he used it last nite, worked fine, but got a new one for Father’s Day. It IS an LP unit. So thinking I hit a home run, grabbed it a little while ago. Got it home am unloaded if. As luck would have it, has no ID tag either. Strike 1. Strike 2, it’s only a Genesis (?) Sikver. But same vintage. Strike 3 on the 3rd pitch, the fire box is slightly smaller. Dimensions all around are slightly smaller. But, it IS LP, so has all the parts I need?? IDK, burner tubes are obviously shorter as is the tire box. And it does have an unused side burner. I’ll post pix. So my question is, can I just use the LP gas setup, from the tank connection /regulator, to the manifold/Valves??? I’ll use my burner tubes obviously. But the firebox is only 4” where the Genesis Gold has a 5.25” deep fire box. Any advice on if this will work?? Or keep trying to find EXACTLY same unit??

Thanx, Jay
 

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