Reheating Cooked Meat Temp Question


 

ChristopherC

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I keep reading that when reheating leftovers you still should heat to 140d... I don’t get it. I thought once meat is cooked, you can even snack on it cold, etc...

For example hot dogs...you could eat one out of the pack cold or leftover pizza etc... because it had already been cooked.

What is the truth here?
 
People at risk of listeria infections (pregnant women, people with compromised immune systems) should avoid eating hot dogs and lunch meat unless it's been heated to 165*F or above. Listeria infections are commonly linked to deli meats. For those of us that are healthy, eating a cold hot dog or cold deli meat poses little risk of a listeria infection.

Eating a cold piece of leftover pizza or chicken or meatloaf or whatever straight from the refrigerator is fine because it should be under 40*F. Cold pizza I get; cold hot dog I don't. :)


Here's a good place to start, recognizing that these guidelines, while official, are very conservative. If you think about Thanksgiving, it's common for some foods to sit out longer than 2 hours (think cheese ball) and people still eat it and don't get sick or die.


You used to hear talk about the "2 hour/4 hour" rule. USDA doesn't promote this method, but it seems to be common in other locales like Australia. Under this scheme, you keep track of the total time food sits in the "danger zone" between 40-140*F. If it's 2 hours or less, it's OK to eat OR to put back in the refrigerator at 40*F or less. If it's between 2-4 hours, it's OK to eat but not to refrigerate again. If it's over 4 hours, you should throw it away.

From an Australia website:

"The total time includes all the time the food has been at room temperature, for example during delivery, preparation and transportation.

"Example: A sandwich is freshly prepared at 12 noon and placed in a non-refrigerated display case: (1) Can keep the sandwich out of refrigeration for up to 2 hours (until 2 pm) and then refrigerate and bring out again later in the day, say 4 pm (not to go back into the refrigerator for later use after this point). If not used by 6 pm (4 hours out of temperature control in total) then throw it away, OR (2) Can keep the sandwich out of temperature control (refrigeration) for up to 4 hours straight- until 4 pm- then you need to throw it away."


For barbecued meats, I try to heat to 140*F not so much for food safety, although that's in the back of my mind, but more as a good serving temperature. I don't enjoy cold leftover brisket or pork butt.
 
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Chris nails it. Of course. Years ago I read that companies and doctors do not recommend eating hotdogs out of the package. Course we were not suppose to eat raw cookie dough either... (raw eggs)
 
I get that most things are tastier, more appropriate heated up. But when I made pulled pork, it was even nice to grab a chunk out of the fridge cold just to pick on. I always pick on bbqed chicken breasts that we "pull" for wraps. Also when we order chinese food, we always grab a chicken ball or 2 out of the fridge leftovers cold. I just figured it is both "cooked" and "cold in the fridge" so the odds of NEW bacterial growth is slim to none.
 
But when I made pulled pork, it was even nice to grab a chunk out of the fridge cold just to pick on. I always pick on bbqed chicken breasts that we "pull" for wraps.
Totally fine. Those foods are below 40*F when snacked on straight from the refrigerator, thus not in the food safety "danger zone."

Looking back at your original post, I think I see what you were getting at. Yes, you can grab a 37*F slice of pizza from the refrigerator, heat it to 110*F, eat it immediately and it's completely safe because it's in the 40*F - 140*F "danger zone" for hardly no time at all. However, if you were running a pizza restaurant and held pizza slices under a heat lamp at 110*F for 4, 5, 6 hours...that would not be food safe.

Listeria infections are commonly linked to deli meats.
For example: https://www.cdc.gov/listeria/outbreaks/delimeat-10-20/index.html

10/23/20: CDC, public health and regulatory officials in several states, and the U.S. Department of Agriculture’s Food Safety and Inspection Service (USDA-FSIS) are investigating a multistate outbreak of Listeria monocytogenes infections linked to deli meats.
 
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