question about wood smokers


 
Ok, this might be stupid but i have to ask.

When i use my smoker it always say to only use like 3 or 4 small chunks of wood to smoke or you will over smoke the meat.

So how don't the smokers that just run on wood don't over smoke the meat?
 
Stick burners burn down do a nice bed of red hot coals and once up and running only put out a whisper of smoke. Your wood chunks are smoldering and producing more smoke.

A stick burner's fire that goes bad and smolders will give the thick bad smoke.

That's the best I can put it not being a stick burner, but one who likes to play with fire
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Jeff said it. To sum it up, it's a whole different kind of fire.

That said, keep in mind that while a wsm user might occasionally end up with a heavier smoke flavor than desired, there's been many an offset cook that ended up with meat that was barely edible.

Offsets burning wood only are just not very forgiving, especially on smaller offsets, and you can chalk one up for me, my first rib cook on my first smoker, a little New Braunfels Silver Smoker that my buddy gave me. I had no clue what the heck I was doing, and the ribs reflected that. But after that cook I went to the library and checked out just about every book they had on bbq.
 
It is an entirely different kind of fire.They do require more attention, but I can't say I've ever over-smoked anything, in fact, you wouldn't believe the smoke ring you can get on brisket with a stick burner. Personally I like a lot of smoke. More like traditional open pits.
You can use charcoal in a big offset (I did last week), but they prefer wood, lots of heavy metal to get hot and keep hot. The one fault I find with the wsm is enough smoke.
As long as you leave the exhaust vents always full open you shouldn't get the bad creosote flavor.
I think every bbq'r should try wood cooking just for the experience. It really is different and fun.
 
Originally posted by J Hoke:
It is an entirely different kind of fire.They do require more attention, but I can't say I've ever over-smoked anything, in fact, you wouldn't believe the smoke ring you can get on brisket with a stick burner. Personally I like a lot of smoke. More like traditional open pits.
You can use charcoal in a big offset (I did last week), but they prefer wood, lots of heavy metal to get hot and keep hot. The one fault I find with the wsm is enough smoke.
As long as you leave the exhaust vents always full open you shouldn't get the bad creosote flavor.
I think every bbq'r should try wood cooking just for the experience. It really is different and fun.

Excellent analysis and very well stated!
 
Originally posted by J Hoke:
It is an entirely different kind of fire.They do require more attention, but I can't say I've ever over-smoked anything, in fact, you wouldn't believe the smoke ring you can get on brisket with a stick burner. Personally I like a lot of smoke. More like traditional open pits.
You can use charcoal in a big offset (I did last week), but they prefer wood, lots of heavy metal to get hot and keep hot. The one fault I find with the wsm is enough smoke.
As long as you leave the exhaust vents always full open you shouldn't get the bad creosote flavor.
I think every bbq'r should try wood cooking just for the experience. It really is different and fun.

J, in my experience with offsets, to get a clean burning fire the INTAKE vent, as well as the exhaust vent, needs to be mostly open, especially with the popular, cheap ones with the small round fireboxes. Obviously, better pits are easier to work with, and some, like a Jambo, are actually designed to be adjusted at the stack. Boy, I'd like one of those.

Rgarding the wsm, though, for some reason, it's easier to oversmoke without water in the pan. You can just use more wood and even add more when cooking with water, at least if the pan is simmering pretty good how I usually keep it, (not TOO low and slow).

As to the smoke ring, I prefer to put meat on pretty cold, especially briskets, and I don't cook at true high heat. One other thing is that while I haven't seen too much discussion on it here, for some reason or another, briquettes are supposed to help your smoke ring, as opposed to lump. I've read of mixing some briquettes in with lump on brisket cooks just for this reason alone.
 
Good points. Put a brisket and butt on at 7:00 this morning with no water. Both were cold. Marinated over night and rubbed this morning.
Using peach, cherry, and one hickory. Will foil about 12:30 or so. 250 at top grate. Didn't bother with probe on lower grate with butt. First time w/o water so we'll see how it does.
Never know till you try.
 
Resting in cooler right now. Probably take out in hour or so and will try to post some pictures.
I did have to try a little of the brisket point, and was maybe one of my best. That always happens when I'm just cooking for me and family and not a comp.
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A vertical smoker will let the smoke circulate more internally than a off-set. Also the chunks are added to the charcoal in the verticals but in an off-set I have the wood settin on top of the fire-box getting darn hot so when I toss them in they burst into flames and don't smolder and let off tons of smoke.........
 
Originally posted by ScottE:
...in an off-set I have the wood settin on top of the fire-box getting darn hot so when I toss them in they burst into flames and don't smolder and let off tons of smoke.........

That's how I like to do it as well, Scott. Last time I used an offset it had a warmer over the firebox and I wasn't too happy I couldn't do that. Really does make a difference. In this drought and heatwave though I'm reminded that you need to be careful where the smoker's set up to avoid starting a brush fire.
 
My firebox gets so hot, I've had the wood start smoking before I ever put it in the firebox.

Here is a very bad picture of Sunday's smoking. The juice really isn't yellow.
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Brisket was on top rack at 250 and butt was on bottom rack. Didn't track temp on bottom rack. Foiled 2/3 way through, then butt back on for 1 hour without foil to firm up bark.
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When I had a round fire-box, I would set some mini-splits in the smoking chamber to keep em hot to add when needed. I have had some burst into flames when they would set on a big square fire-box on my last off-set!!
 
Originally posted by ScottE:
When I had a round fire-box, I would set some mini-splits in the smoking chamber to keep em hot to add when needed. I have had some burst into flames when they would set on a big square fire-box on my last off-set!!
I've had some get close to flames.
 

 

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