New WSM First Butt ?


 

Bill Pearson

TVWBB Super Fan
So I got my new WSM and as long as it's my first Butt, I thought I would try out Alton Browns Brined Butt. Now I've done a few Butts on my Kettle and they all were really good, took around 10 hours.

My question is, and not to question your expertise for info only, is why are you cooking your 8.5 lbs. Butts for 18 or so hours? Every book (Peace Love and BBQ, Smoke & Spice, and even the "Cookshack" book) and recipe I have says 1-1.5 hours per pound @ 225-250. I know that is just a guide, but 2+ hours per pound?

Thanks
 
Bill

There's nothing magical about the length of the cook. Just cook it for so long as it takes to get to the desired internal meat temp - usually 190 to 195. That time will vary with conditions.

Paul
 
I cook mine to 19 degreess. Sometimes it is 10 hours, sometimes it is 16 hours. It is very Butt to Butt. I try to cook at 235 lid temp but usually end up in the 245 range.
 
Try not too worry about time so much as temp. It's done when it's done. Not sure about the other 2 books however Smoke & Spice has a little history of having cook times that are a little off. 18 hours seems like a worst case senario. Most seem to take me about 14-16 hours to get there. I've got a feeling a brined butt will cook a little faster.
 
I don't know what the shortest butt cook I've had is....but I would guess it's around 14 hours, with the smallest being in the 5-6 lb range.

Average time is 16-19 hours for 7-8 lb'ers.

I cook at 225 grate.
 
My preference is to get about 16 to 20 lbs of uncooked meat done in about 14 hours. I realize its done when its done, but mine don't go beyond 14 hours too often. I also don't feel too bad pulling at 185 or 190 or 195 or 200. My dome temperature is usually warmer than 235 too.
 
Bill,

I've done many pork butts. I agree that you need to get it up to 190 degrees that takes 1 1/2 to 2 hours a pound. There are ways to get it done quicker which I often do. Since I have a small family and small freezer, I generally cut my butts up so that our family of 3 will get 3 day meals out of it. Basically, I cut down the butt into sizes of about 3-4 pounds. This size is good for us and it usually cooks in the 5-7 hour timeframe. Best advice, do what works for you, get the right temperature of the finished meat & you'll be fine.
 
As to your question, Bill, of our timing (examples of which are posted above, several being at or more than 2hrs/lb) vis-a-vis what one often reads in books is that frankly the books are wrong or unclear.

A large bone-in butt is likely to take around 2hrs/lb if cooked ~225, longer if the temp trends lower (not at all uncommon on an overnight cook where one is not watching the cooker) and shorter if the temp trends or spikes higher periodically (not at all uncommon on an overnight cook where one is not watching the cooker
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); butts cooked at ~250 will cook more toward 1.5hrs/lb but the same potential for a shorter or longer cook applies. We all know this and most of us have experienced all sorts of variations in cook times.

Most (but not all!) authors understand the vagaries of barbecue, the ofttimes vagueness of the specifics of actual cooks, and the potential for contributing externalites (like those alluded to above, temp of meat when it went into the cooker, mop use, type and frequency, and several other factors) and often include at least a cursory discussion of these issues in the narrative of the book.

Books written for what are assumed to be 'advanced' readers/cooks might eliminate or merely touch on some of this info. Recipes written by authors who probably don't have any business writing about barbecue probably won't include any of it. However, an author might include all or much of it but the editor might strike much of it too because, unless skillfully included in the narrative, it can clutter the recipe(s) and make too much read as too vague. Most editors do not like this sort of 'clutter' even though it might be necessary for a complete understanding of the subject involved.

One sees this frequently (and not just with barbecue books) from publishing houses or imprints not well versed with publishing cookbooks and from those who pair their authors with literary-minded (rather than food/cooking-minded) editors. This is particularly glaring--and obvious--when a clearly talented and well known chef is scooped by a publisher wanting to capitalize on the fame of the chef but pairs him or her with a clueless editor and then releases a poorly received book.
 
As time goes on, and the more experience you get, you'll learn that is next to impossible to time your meat exactly. I've only done 7 bone in butts (I try to get between 6.5 to 8 pound butts. I know its hard to figure but my 8 pound butt took the least amount of time to cook (about 13 hours). My 6.5 pound butt took about 14.5 hours. How do you figure?
 
Hi Joe,

I just wanted to ask you what your opinion was on doing small sized butts. My supermarkets only sells 3 to 4 lb butts so I was considering doing butts that size since I too have a small family.

However, I have heard that the butts don't come out right if they are small, saying they will be to dry. It didn't seem right to me but I haven't read/heard of too many people doing small butts.

How do yours come out? Have you done two or three 4 lb butts at a time? If so, how long do they usually take?

Thanks.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Joe P:
Bill,

I've done many pork butts. I agree that you need to get it up to 190 degrees that takes 1 1/2 to 2 hours a pound. There are ways to get it done quicker which I often do. Since I have a small family and small freezer, I generally cut my butts up so that our family of 3 will get 3 day meals out of it. Basically, I cut down the butt into sizes of about 3-4 pounds. This size is good for us and it usually cooks in the 5-7 hour timeframe. Best advice, do what works for you, get the right temperature of the finished meat & you'll be fine. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
 
Time is irrelevant. All those guidelines are just estimates and every pork butt is different, even when they weigh the same. It is not uncommon for a pork butt to hit 165-170 rather quickly and then just hover at those temps for many hours without budging. Keep cooking it. The only true test of doneness is temperature - the pork will not be pullable until it hits 190-195 degrees internal.
 

 

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