It was a good cook, great time with my son who now knows how to cook ribs which is something I didn't know until my mid 20's and that involved boiling *yikes*
The lesson learned was you can't go by looks. We both were dumbfounded by the lack of pullback, we were toothpicking and had increased tenderness right up to the 4.75 hour mark. That if at anytime should have been when we pulled them, but they were great and he now has rib duty in our home
Thanks for the kind words, have a great Father's Day