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My failed HH brisket...


 

Steve McKibben

TVWBB Super Fan
Had my second attempt at the HH method for cooking brisket this weekend, and I failed. Not miserably, by some standards - it was still worth eating - the wife and kids said it was good, but it didn't come close to the first one I cooked a couple of months ago.

That first one was so tender, so moist, and so tasty that I had been fantasizing about making another one and now that I had a chance was so looking forward to it.

Looking back, it was probably an inattention to detail combined with changing too many variables at once that led to my downfall.

The meat was virtually the same - a six pound choice flat. The first one was coated with garlic powder, kosher salt, and black pepper just while waiting for the fire to start. This time I made a paste of bovine bold rub and worcesterhire sauce and applied it several hours ahead of time.

This minion start was a little slower than the last time, but I let it run too hot - in the 350+ range, while I was distracted by cleaning out the garage. It had been on almost two hours before I closed down the vents some, and even then stayed easily above the 300-325 target range for the 2+ hours it was on pre-foil.

I put it in an aluminum half-pan, foiled the top and let it finish the four hour cook. Here's where I probably made the biggest mistake - it wasn't fork tender yet, but it wasn't close to dinnertime so I let it sit out for a few minutes, poured off the liquids (I was going to use some to make a dipping sauce, but didn't return any to the foil), and tightly double wrapped it in foil and put it in a cooler.

When it was time to slice it I knew that I was in for a letdown - not nearly as tender, moist, or tasty as my first attempt.

I guess I won't be so cocky doing the next one and will pay greater attention to details, particularly the WSM temps.

At least mediocre brisket is better than bad brisket I suppose!
 
Steve,

It appears the brisket was just a little undercooked. Your temps seem fine for a HH cook; a few degrees either way shouldn't affect a piece of meat like a brisket. One thing about cooking flats; many times they are trimmed excessively by the butcher. The flat is already the leaner portion of a whole brisket, and by trimming the fat cap, you remove that layer that can add a little more tenderness and act as a heat shield before foiling. If you have leftovers, try foiling them and adding the juice (if any) and reheating in the oven to about 130. Check for tenderness.

Paul
 
Thanks Paul - if there are enough leftovers I'll try that.

If not, I'll just be less distracted (and more patient!) next time around.

Appreciate the help!
 
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Steve McKibben:
This minion start was a little slower than the last time, but I let it run too hot - in the 350+ range, while I was distracted by cleaning out the garage. It had been on almost two hours before I closed down the vents some, and even then stayed easily above the 300-325 target range for the 2+ hours it was on pre-foil.

I put it in an aluminum half-pan, foiled the top and let it finish the four hour cook. Here's where I probably made the biggest mistake - it wasn't fork tender yet, but it wasn't close to dinnertime so I let it sit out for a few minutes, poured off the liquids (I was going to use some to make a dipping sauce, but didn't return any to the foil), and tightly double wrapped it in foil and put it in a cooler.

When it was time to slice it I knew that I was in for a letdown - not nearly as tender, moist, or tasty as my first attempt.

I guess I won't be so cocky doing the next one and will pay greater attention to details, particularly the WSM temps. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
First lid temps of 350º or even up to 375º is not too hot for HH Brisket. My WSM runs cold so I usually leave the lid hang off a little till I get in the 375-400º lid temps, and then set the lid on right. I will set the lid off as needed during the cook to maintain at least 350º in the lid. At the 2 hr mark, you should have foiled it, and let it go for another 1.5-2hrs till tender. Only 1hr in foil was prob not enough time, and could have caused the little tough/dry thing. Draining all the juice out didn't help either for a moist brisket. When the brisket is resting and starting to cool, it will reabsorb alot of the juice. That's why I prefer to use foil instead of a foil pan. I feel with the foil close against the brisket, the juice is touching the brisket over a larger area, and would pull in more juice, than just from the bottom part of the brisket, when a foil pan is used, IMO. When I open the foil, I have juice all around and up the sides of the brisket, and some juice on top as well. I only used a foil pan one time for a HH brisket, and found it wasn't as moist as the ones cooked and rested in foil. JMO HTH
 
Bryan,

I've not tried the HH brisket, but probably will in a couple weeks. I find unwrapping a brisket to probe for tenderness a pain, and was considering putting a brisket in a foil pan, and just covering the top of the pan at the foil stage. Then, when resting, I would transfer the brisket and some of the juices to a piece of foil....wrap it up and cooler. Do you think that would work?
 
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Pat McCreight:
Bryan,

I've not tried the HH brisket, but probably will in a couple weeks. I find unwrapping a brisket to probe for tenderness a pain, and was considering putting a brisket in a foil pan, and just covering the top of the pan at the foil stage. Then, when resting, I would transfer the brisket and some of the juices to a piece of foil....wrap it up and cooler. Do you think that would work? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Pat couldn't agree more, that it's a PITA to un wrap and check for tender. Your plan sounds very soild to me, great idea.
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Should work out just the same as when I foil at the 2 hr mark. Good luck on your first HH Brisket.
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I love doing them. They just are so consistant in their finish. Yes the bark suffers some, but I think the benifits of HH are better, esp when doing an over trimmed half flat that alot of people cook, no fault of their own, as it's their only choice in the region/area they live in.
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I'm lucky here as I can get big flats and packers as well. Sorry for the ramble at the end here.
 
On the unwrapping to check for tender part -

Whenever I foil and need to probe for tenderness, I just probe directly thru the foil. Never hassled with unwrapping before!
 

 

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