KitchenAid Professional 5 Plus Mixer


 
Best of luck. I honestly think I would have used a more robust grease but as I said the stuff I used in the one I did as an experiment has not failed yet and that customer uses his more like a commercial setting. Baking heavy bread doughs and such for many people and a Vietnam Veterans organization
 
Mystic grease is no doubt the better of the two, although I couldn't find it around here for the price you paid at Farm & Fleet. Nevertheless, it wasn't that much more, but after reading some online comments about Super Lube and KA mixers, I thought I'd give it a try, and I can always use it around the house for plumbing fixtures & such.
 
I only showed the Mystik grease to indicate you should look for that brand. Other brands of this type of grease exist and are easily found. I was more just indicating looking for a good EP type grease with Moly in it. I have machines out there now for close to 6 years with it and have not had anyone with a complaint or a failure even ones in commercial environment like caterers and bakers. The jury is out on the one machine I put out with the other synthetic food grade teflon based product I used. So far so good though
 
Any home remedies for tarnished burnished attachments?

Some recommend boiling the parts in vinegar, but I thought about hitting them with metal polish.


EDIT: Found this link...

https://producthelp.kitchenaid.com/...e/Remove_grayish_residue_from_the_flat_beater

Looks like one could use Bar Keeper's Friend for removing tarnish.


EDIT (2): Just found out the grease & parts should be here Saturday. Since I previously removed the motor housing, I assume I'll have to loosen up the rear mounting screws and gently mesh the motor gear with the worm gear during reassembly?
 
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I don't worry about the tarnish. Won't hurt you unlike the chemicals to remove it LOL. They all tarnish especially if cleaned in the dishwasher.
 
Well, the pony express (FedEx Smartpost) finally got here, Monday, with the gears. I ordered the parts on the 10th, and it took 10 days for the package to arrive.

Anyway, I was a little rusty remembering the reassembly procedure, so it took me longer than it should have. I know I put at least 3 ounces of grease in the unit, and I had a bit trouble getting the top housing to fit flush, but I managed to get everything to mesh properly. I made a short video (69 MB) of the mixer in action (without a load) for you see and hear, but the upload timed-out on me three times, so I gave up.

I know nothing about how these units are supposed to sound. This one sounded a bit loud to me at first, but the noise calmed down a bit after warmup. My wife made a chocolate cake from scratch this afternoon, and the mixer seemed to be even quieter under load. She's happy, and the family commented about how light the cake's texture was.

Our only gripe is finding a place to store the mixer. It is a bit too high to fit on the counter, and it is too heavy for her to lug around. I had to make an impromptu kitchen island with my collapsible work table until I can figure out something permanent. (wish we had a bigger kitchen)

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They are loud machines no question. Under load they do quiet a little because the gear lash is taken up by the load. I honestly don't measure out the grease so 3 oz means nothing. I guess I could do the math as it takes about 1/3rd a tube of the moly stuff I use. I personally really pile on the grease on the gears and such. I rotate everything by hand with the gear box cover off to be sure plenty of grease is in there. If you get grease into that top bearing it will cause the cover to kind of hydro lock when you reinstall. This may have caused the resistance you met trying to get the cover back on. Good luck I'd be interested in how that grease works as it is MUCH MUCH cheaper than the Food Safe product I guy and use on the tilt head machines.
My wife has done french bread with ours (actually many times when I finish a machine I have her do a large batch to torture test the rebuild LOL) but, in any case they make wonderful bread with that spiral dough hook, Far better that the type with the "C" hook
 
LMichaels said:
They are loud machines no question. Under load they do quiet a little because the gear lash is taken up by the load. I honestly don't measure out the grease so 3 oz means nothing. I guess I could do the math as it takes about 1/3rd a tube of the moly stuff I use. I personally really pile on the grease on the gears and such. I rotate everything by hand with the gear box cover off to be sure plenty of grease is in there. If you get grease into that top bearing it will cause the cover to kind of hydro lock when you reinstall. This may have caused the resistance you met trying to get the cover back on. Good luck I'd be interested in how that grease works as it is MUCH MUCH cheaper than the Food Safe product I guy and use on the tilt head machines.
My wife has done french bread with ours (actually many times when I finish a machine I have her do a large batch to torture test the rebuild LOL) but, in any case they make wonderful bread with that spiral dough hook, Far better that the type with the "C" hook
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I'll post back if the grease isn't up to snuff. I'll say one thing, it sure was hard to remove it from my hands.

I'll have to make some pizza dough with the hook, and see how it turns out. Y'all use powdered yeast? (slow rise, I assume?)

Many thanks for your invaluable help!
 
OH boy that's a good question. I don't bake my wife does. She's a wonderful baker and a horrible cook. I am the opposite. I use the mixer to make (don't laugh) mashed potatoes, salmon dip, blue cheese dip, and such. But she's the baker. Sadly I cannot eat her things as even just one slice of bread will send my blood sugar into the stratosphere. Yet I can eat potatoes, rice, and some other things I'm told can raise it but they don't or do so in such a small way that it doesn't become worrisome
 
glad you got it, with some personalized assistance (good job LM).

I don't bake much, only things like bread, pizza dough, and cookies once in a while. I use the regular, not fast rise, red star yeast in the small jar, it seems to keep forever (~9 months?).

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My wife uses Red Star yeast during the holidays (wife is forever baking rolls & such then), but I haven't baked anything in years. Fast-rise yeast (at least according to what I read) does not have time to neutralize wheat toxins like slow-rise yeast can, so I plan on using something similar to your jar, Clint.

One American, with gluten intolerance, visiting Europe, ate baked goods with no gastric distress. Come to find out, their problem wasn't gluten; it was fast-rise yeast products in American baked goods that had caused their digestive problems. Before the 1980s, all American baked products were produced with slow-rise yeast.

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Larry, have you ever tried Wasa crackers? They are made in Europe, and they may not affect your blood sugar that bad. I can eat a few of them each day with good results, but most of them taste better with something on them (melted cheese, cream cheese, pub cheese, peanut butter, etc.). I like to melt sliced cheese on two slices of Wasa Fiber crackers in our toaster oven, and make a sandwich out of the two. Wasa Sesame is good, toasted or not, and Wasa Multi-Grain is good as is.

http://www.wasa-usa.com/products/crispbread/multi-grain/

Our favorites are Multi-Grain, Sesame, Light Rye, Sourdough, Fiber, and Whole Wheat.
 
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Finally got the video uploaded!...

[video]https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/wt2tuakmnjyis9s/August%202018%20010.mp4?dl=0[/video]
 
That's about right. They're pretty noisy machines lots of gear lash in them. My 6 qt is quieter but I think that is due to the moly grease in there. Moly tends to bind into the metal in a way. When I first rebuilt it mine sounded like that but once the moly works into the gears it really quiets down. It's now barely louder than a nice running tilt head which are much quieter machines. Less gear lash, and the nylon fiber fail safe gear really quiets them down a lot. I keep an old Hobart tilt head 3 qt machine around for small things (it's called a 3C) and the one I have here was made in 1957. Can't even hear it running. Powerful little sucker too. The only issue with it is I used regular Mobil 1 grease in it and when it's unused for very long times it does separate and it will leak a teensy bit. So we wipe off the drop or 2 and really run it and once all run and circulated it will be fine for months. I may just pop it open one day though and put the synthetic food grade in it as it never separates and in the tit head machines it operates VERY VERY quietly
 
If I have wear problems, I'll post back, and I'll use moly grease next time.

Looking back, I'm wondering if I should've replaced the worm gear since this model is 14 years old.

I thought the new worm follower gear would be all brass, but it is magnetic, too, and it looks like the one I replaced.
 
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Yeah brass would not hold up, I don't think I have ever seen a work gear fail though I have seen the large spur gear portion fail on them. I have seen the teeth show very fine chips. It does not take much there to have the machine sound like it's "skipping" or "snapping" under load. If you hear that replace that gear immediately don't wait or it will take other parts with it
 
Rusty James said:
Here's some shots of the planetary assembly...

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Try as I might, I cannot find even the tiniest of groves for an O-ring to fit into other than the groove for the snap ring (part 25, in the diagram I posted earlier) above the pin hole. Maybe this model is one of those units that omitted the O-ring (as you previously mentioned). A vernier caliper could not locate an O-ring groove either.

The serial number of this unit is: WR5059395

Getting back to the images, the planetary assembly is the only part I have not disassembled yet, and it's not much cleaner, now, than it was when I first removed it from the mixer housing - meaning that not much grease leaked into the planetary to begin with.

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I beg your pardon, I meant to say I used a vernier calipers to make these measurements with, but I did recheck the shaft with a micrometer, and the shaft uniformly measures .498" OD from top to bottom with some variation in the tenths range (.0000). The pressed-in sleeve bearing that the shaft fits into measures at .500" so there is not much room for play.
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Larry,

I can't remember, is the long shaft pictured above pressed into the planetary assembly, or is it easily removable?

I am going to replace the planetary soon, and I don't know which part to buy...

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or this?...

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EDIT: Here is a link to another thread on the subject. I should have started from there I guess...

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Mixing Dough With A KitchenAid Mixer

I may have a broken planetary gear ring, but I will know more when I get the right snap ring pliers. The planetary gear rotates around the gear ring, freely, until it reaches a certain spot, and then it wants to drag and bump a bit until the gear clears that particular area. Looking back, I may...
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You need the bottom one. The 1st one is for the giant 8qt commercial. The planetary on those is a weak point. My buddy is a machinist and he does a mod for me so I can give them a lifetime coverage. Not going to really share too much though as if I give away my business I have no business :D And yes the shaft is a shrink/press fit. If you use that machine for a lot of heavy dough mixing 2 things happen. The main worm follower gear strips due to the crappy lubrication KA uses at the factory and the planetary falls apart because of the shoddy construction. Since I determined the best lube and the mod to the planetary my friend does for me I have not had a failure of either even on machines I have in the field that are in commercial applications. Though I did have one motor burn out LOL. I figure if it's strong enough to not strip the gear even to the point it overloads and burns out the motor I know I have the right combination.
 
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