I do want to thank Chris Allingham for e-mailing some pictures of thre Wsm that I needed for the artist i had about 5 different pictures of different angles for him tolook at I think the picture he used was the picture of the it on Amazon, he liked the way it had a reflection on it and he caught that very well i have never been more happy with a tattoo, plus not to mention it was a complete cover up of an old Navy tattoo that i had there so all in all he did a super job