Is my butt is spoiled?


 

DavidD

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got up at 5 this morning to put the butt on and found the refrig door cracked. I probed the butt with my thermapen and the internal temp was 55 degrees. The door was slightly cracked from 9pm until 5am, so temps gradually rose. The milk seems unspoiled, though like everything, was not as cold as it's supposed to be.

do you think it is safe? Also, what about the eggs, bacon, biscuits, butter, leftover grilled chicken, etc? Fridge was full of the normal stuff. Pls advise.
 
The leftover grilled chicken might be a concern. That and any other already cooked foods. (Btw, it's the external, surface temp of the butt I would have checked.)

It would take some time for the fridge to reach ambient room temp. Though shelf life will be shortened for most stuff in the fridge, most of the raw foods that will be cooked before eating will be fine. It is the cooked foods, especially those you cooked yourself, where problems can arise. (This is counter-intuitive for many people.) Though I don't see the temps and time involved to be a problem in this case, remember for the future that ambient temps above the 70s are especially problematic, especially when there is time involved, and especially with already cooked or prepared foods, particularly meats.
 
thanks for the input. I thought about the exterior temp of the butt but not until after I already put it on the smoker.
 
Though that's where you want to check, the spoilage bacteria on the butt's surface were actually keeping the butt safer. Spoilage bacteria are competitive and, during the time in question, would pretty much disallow pathogen growth at the likely ambient temp. Cooking will destroy the spoilage bacteria and will pasteurize the meat.

But this alludes to the problem I noted above with already cooked/prepared foods. With cooked/prepared foods the spoilage bacteria were already killed off. Though they will colonize eventually (which is why food spoils after cooking as well), their low numbers after cooking opens the door to colonization by pathogens, especially Staph. Keeping foods sufficiently hot after cooking, or cooling relatively quickly then fridging or otherwise keeping chilled, thwarts Staph outgrowth. It is when hot foods are not kept hot, or hot foods are chilled too slowly after cooking, or cooked, chilled foods are allowed to warm, and there is enough time involved (this is operative), that problems can arise. Without the spoilage bacteria to keep them at bay, Staph can outgrow exponentially. Over time they will reach a critical mass and once that is achieved they produce a toxin. It's the toxin that makes people sick. It is also heat stable, i.e., reheating the food will not affect it at all.

(Not trying to freak you out here. I don't see cause for concern. Just illustrating why cooked foods can potentially be more dangerous, and how that occurs.)
 
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">ver time they will reach a critical mass and once that is achieved they produce a toxin. It's the toxin that makes people sick. It is also heat stable, i.e., reheating the food will not affect it at all. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Kevin, How does this play out with respect to a grill? i.e. I grilled some chicken a week ago, closed the vents and came back today to smoke a brisket. I brushed the grill and assumed the heat would take care of the rest. Im not really concerned because I have grilled like this for years. However, is the window open for food borne illness or will the higher temps that occur on the grill take care of this?
 
Actually, no, the heat does not get high enough to handle toxins. That said, there are other variables that do: lack of adequate moisture, lack of adequate food (unless you're leaving chunks of meat on the grate after cooking), airborne spoilage bacteria and molds, among others.
 

 

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