I need some advice


 

Michael Cowley

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Hi all I am new to the weber community. I just purchased a 18.5 Weber smokey mountain. My first smoke is the weekend i come back from afghnistan.. Like 2 weeks from now. I have 11 people coming. We wanna do 2 Pork butts and 6 racks of baby back ribs.. I have read all over that you cant fit all this on the weber 18.5... So I am kind of freaking out a little bit.. I did by a rib rack that holds 5 racks. but i also wanna do the 2-1-1 method for the ribs is this possible with a rib rack?

Thanks for any assistance that can be provided. Semper Fi
Michael
 
Thank you so much for your service Michael!!!!!!!!!!

Yes it can be done, however that is way more meat than needed for 11 people! You could feed 40-50 hungry folks with that amount easily with only a few sides.

I would suggest 1 butt and 4 racks of ribs. If you want to cook 2 butts and 6 racks then I would do the butts on top and roll the ribs on the bottom as you can stack them on top of each other. You can hold butts up to 4hrs easy once they are done. Put the ribs on 5-6hrs before you want to serve.

If you cook at 240-260 vent temps you will need 1.5-1.75 hrs per lb on the butts and 5 hrs for the ribs, 1 more hr for spare/St. Louis.
 
Thank you for your advice.. so your saying only one pork butt? its 11 people though and we all eat pretty hardy. I will be getting my butts from sams and they cryovac 2 buts per pack.

Also if I roll the ribs can i still do the 2-1-1 method??

Meant to add a question.. stack them? why would you stack them dont you want smoke all around them?
 
Here we have som big spares untrimmed. Rolld and skewered.
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No foil no mess...Even smoke and cooking
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I dont use foil. But you do it your way ofc. Rolling them will fit alot on one grate. But since you have a rib rack no need to roll. But to mess with foil in/out with a butt on there i would try to do them unfoiled. 6 racks and one butt will be more then enough to fill up 11 ppl. (grown/strong ones)
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This is on a 22" But BB on a 18" (one grate) is fine. Dual butts on one grate No Problem!

Wanna do both butts and save for later go ahead.
 
wow those look great im using baby backs does that matter? it looks like u put some kind of sauce on them or is my computer just funky today? did u cut them then lay them flat? or are those not the same ribs?
 
They fell over after a few hours. then i removed the skewer. But they are still in one piece. Still even cooked/smoked. Yes i sauce the last 20 min. BB cooks around 1 hour faster. Think you can do them unfoiled in 5hours..But go after tenderness and not time.
 
Hi Michael,
From one Tennessean to another, GLAD YOU'RE COMIN' BACK SOON!!

2 butts and 6 racks of Baby Backs...wheeew! That's a lot of meat.

Lessee...that's about 7/10 lb of Pulled Pork and a half rack of ribs each, not to think of the sides and <STRIKE>Beer</STRIKE> beverages.

Take the above advice, 2 butts on top, roll the ribs on the bottom, or cut back to 5 racks and use your rib rack.
Freeze or give away any leftovers.
 
Ok great advice and thank u dearly but i have another question wouldnt it make more sense to put the butts on bottom since they will take longer? and wouldnt have to lift them off to put the ribs on? At least thats my take on it I could be way off base here
 
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Michael Cowley:
Ok great advice and thank u dearly but i have another question wouldnt it make more sense to put the butts on bottom since they will take longer? and wouldnt have to lift them off to put the ribs on? At least thats my take on it I could be way off base here </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yes, that makes sense to me, especially since you're doing 2-1-1.

BTW, I think the foil will "foil" your effort of doing the 2-1-1 in the rib rack. They probably won't fit once you foil them. Once they're in the foil, I'd just lay them on the cooking grate. No more smoke necessary at that point.
 
If you use the rib rack then Yes to the butt on the low grate. You could still fit 5 bb´s on the top grate.?! The bottom grate is used only if you gonna stack em.(ribs)
 
Michael, thanks for your service, and welcome back home to Tennessee. My own son leaves to go to Fort Benning tomorrow.

As others have said, that's a LOT of meat for the crowd you're gonna entertain. If it was me and I wanted to do some back ribs and pulled pork for a dozen or so, I'd only do three racks and freeze one of the butts to smoke at a later date.

If you want a bunch of leftovers though, go for it. I prefer to roll whole slabs or smoke half slabs of ribs in my 18.5", and after foiling, it doesn't hurt to stack the ribs.
 
ok so after reading the posts I have decided one 10 lb butt if i can find it and 6 racks of ribs rolled 5 on top and one on bottom with the butt. will that work? Also, do u achieve the same fall off the bone tenderness not foiling? Ill be smoking at a constant 225-235 degrees i hope using 5 pieces of cherry wood and kingsford briquettes using the minion method. I plan on injecting the butt with cherry dr pepper and spritzing it with cherry dp throughout the process along with spritzing the ribs as well. I will be using some kind of rub.. dont know what kind yet lol any goooood suggestions? These are my future inlaws here can't disappoint

I use to have a POS char-grill barrel smoker and made some excellent ribs and PP before i hope i can recreate the success. I have never rolled the ribs before that will be an experience in itself..

I will also be putting some sort of bbq sauce not sure what yet. I used to have an amazing sauce that was sweet yet had a spicy kick to it but i lost the recipe. I found a couple good sauce recipes but i dont know.
 
Most of us shoot for "not-quite-fall-off-the-bone". Many feel that fotb is overdone. I think that when you take a bite of rib, only what you have in your mouth should leave the bone.
That said, just leave the ribs in the foil till they are the tenderness you like, then remove to crisp up the bark. That shouldn't take an hour.

Best rub and sauce I can suggest is Blues Hog. Bill's rub is the ONLY one I use, and his Original and Tennessee Red just can't be beat.
Steve Petrone's #5 Sauce is WONDERFUL and easy to make, also.

Good luck with your trip home and your cook.
 
Michael, finding a ten pound butt shouldn't be a problem, especially if you find somewhere that carries the Excel pork butts. I buy butts from a small local store here in Lebanon anyway, since the Sam's pork prices aren't really a deal anymore. No idea why they've become so proud of their pork. I catch the sales and buy all pork for much cheaper than Sam's.

Regarding rubs and smoke, etc...I prefer a spicier rub for butts than ribs. However, if I was to pick one commercial rub for both, it would be Plowboy's Yardbird, which has no msg, if that's an issue. It's a really good KC type rub for pork or chicken. You can find it at Bass Pro Shop if you don't want to order any.

I usually make my own rub, and you might do some searches here on the site to find out what's popular here...You'll probably find that Kevin Kruger's recipe comes up a lot, also the BRITU back rib recipe, (although I'd dismiss the "method" and just use the rub). As for butt rubs, I think that a lot of folks like the "butt rub for Jane", if I remember correctly. Chris Lilly is a fantastic pitmaster and has some great recipes out there, although I've found that both of his pork butt injections were a little heavy on the salt. (Never tried a cola injection, though.) One other that comes to mind is Harry Soo's (Slap Yo Daddy BBQ) recipes off his site. I don't keep up with comp. bbq, but I know that he's won a lot on the wsm and has been on bbq pitmasters and such on tv.

Even if you don't ever try any of the recipes, be sure you check out Chris Allingham's wsm tips and cook documentation, especially since you are gonna use Kingsford. (Keep in mind that he's found, like most of us have, that flipping, rotating, mopping or spritzing isn't necessary for good bbq, though.)

As to smoke, you might find that it's almost impossible to oversmoke a pork butt on the wsm. Ribs and chicken are a different matter all together, though. Just sayin that you want to use plenty of wood for the shoulder butt, especially if using such a mild smoke wood. One thing that I've learned about the wsm is that more moisture in the wood is better than well-seasoned...ESPECIALLY for pork butts and briskets. It's a whole different ballgame from smoking in a stickburner where the wood is actually burning, not just slowly smoldering.

Main thing though is.... use enough time and heat to get it all done in time. Foil is your friend, both before and after the meat is done, if necessary. Regarding temps, although I prefer 235* for butts and 275* for back ribs, I don't have a ATC (automatic temp controller), and besides, there's no reason to be anal about temps since I find that 225-275* is just fine for all bbq cuts. I highly recommend hanging a therm in the vent instead of going by the factory gauge.

Good luck with it!
 
Hi Michael,

Thanks for your service! I did a smoke this weekend for 13 (although many were not big eaters) and agree with Glenn W's suggestion of 1 pork butt and 4 racks.

For the 13, I smoked a 9.2 lb pork butt and 2 racks of ribs and grilled 4 chicken breast and 2 thighs. We cut it too close on the ribs but had plenty of leftovers on pork butt (even though the pulled pork was great and the ribs were just ok). Also, I'm not sure where I screwed up on the ribs, but I did like you mentioned of putting the pork butt on bottom so that I could easily add the ribs later, and for some reason, the ribs didn't get much smoke flavor. If you put the ribs on much later, you might add some smoke wood when you put the ribs on. Also, the loin back ribs were a fairly tight fit in my rib rack. That made it difficult to get the ribs out for saucing without tearing them up and may have been a contributing factor to the lack of smoke flavor. I like your call on rolling them and plan to try that next time.
 

 

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