Help with first Brisket


 

Steve Whiting

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Okay I am going to do my first Brisket this weekend and I need some help. I have been searching this forum looking for the correct method but to be honest all of the different information I have read has only caused me confusion. I basically want to go with the instructions Chris posted for his Midnight Brisket cook but in reading the forum I have come across many posts that mention foiling the meat at some point. Can I get some instruction as to when I should do this and is this a well used and well proven method?
I just want to make sure I do it right.
Thanks guys and girls for your help.
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I have only had 1 brisket turn out bad (to me..my brother took it all home, and ate it)..I think it was the meat, but I normally foil around 160 or so or maybe higher until tender. I usually put something in with the foil when I foil (like beer/bbq sauce etc)
 
Hi Steve, greetings from down the road (Fresno). Here's a link to a recent foiled brisket cook that I did FIRST FOILED BRISKET complete with pictures. It was by far my best effort on a brisket and has some good input from people like Dennis who have good luck with briskets. Might helpful reading . . . or maybe not. Good luck, let us know how your first brisket turns out.
 
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Okay I am going to do my first Brisket this weekend and I need some help. I have been searching this forum looking for the correct method but to be honest all of the different information I have read has only caused me confusion.
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Steve, Yep, information over load can be overwhelming. Are you cooking a trimmed or a untrimmed flat, or a whole packer? This will help us in helping you on your first brisket cook.
 
hey steve,

i just did my first brisket on the wsm and it came out fantastic!

i bought a packer brisket.meaning the whole brisket(point and flat)it weighed in @ 8 pounds before i trimmed it.

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i then used the advice on the virtual bullet recipe page for trimming it.

http://www.virtualweberbullet.com/brisketselect.html#prepping

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i then gave it a mustard slather and rubbed it down with my own "big jakes dang ol' rub" (shameless plug,sorry)then it sat in the fridge wrapped in saran overnight.

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i got up the next morning @ 6:30 and got everything ready.

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i used wicked good lump for heat and 3 1/4 fist size pecan wood chunks for that smoke flavor.

once the smoker leveled out @ around 240 i put the bad boy on.(fat side up)now i expected a 12 hour cook (1 1/2 hours per pound)so @ 6 hours i flipped it,and started to mop it with paul kirk's "brisket mop".i got the recipe from his championship b.b.q. book.(plug for paul)

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at around 10 hours i decided to check the temp and see where i was and believe it or not the bad boy read 195.that was my target temp so i took it off,put it on a plate,covered it with foil,and let it rest for 1 hour.now im guessing it was done 2 hours early cuz my wsm ran @ about 240 or so instead of 225.here is the finished product.as you can see after the rest i separated the flat and the point.i sliced the flat and "pulled" the point.

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if ya have any questions,let me know my man.
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Bryan,
I will be cooking a 9.5 lb whole packer, not yet trimmed but I will trim it at prep time.
Jacob,
Your Brisket looks Awesome! I hope mine turns out half as good as yours. I think I will try the Mustard coating along with my rub
 
Hey Jacob, first let me compliment you on your cook, nice job and I have got to try a brisket soon. Second, what size coffee can are you using for the minion method?
 
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Toby, I use a tomato juice can as I found a regular coffee can to large (and a soup can to small) as I only use 8 - 10 lit for my MM cooks. If I had to guess, it's 28 oz. I place a handful of un-lit in the bottom of my can and then add the lit. Here's a PICTURE for reference.

EDIT: Two more things; one, after I dump my lit and remove the can (with tongs or channel locks) I position two of the wood chunks on my lit to get her smoking right out of the gate. Two, I have done this without a can just by putting the lit on top of my unlit and it's worked just as well. I just like using the can as I think its cool and in my mind I think the fire burns in a uniform fashion, although I have no evidence of this.
 
Thanks Larry and thanks for the picture reference. A tomato juice can it will be and I also think its cool. I'll try adding the wood chunks as you suggested.
 
Hey Steve

One easy trick I use on brisket is to separate the point from the flat. I put the flat on the top rack and the point on the bottom. The fat from the point bastes the flat, and the cooler temp (in my q) of the lower rack seems to help the cook as well. 195 is a good rule of thumb for internal temp, but you should learn the fork test too.

Cheers
Lou
 
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Bryan,
I will be cooking a 9.5 lb whole packer, not yet trimmed but I will trim it at prep time.
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Steve, Don't trim too much off. A whole packer with a nice fat cap, no foil needed. Place it fat cap down for the cook and when it's done, wrap it up good in foil with the fat cap up and let it rest for a hr in a cooler. Slice it up and enjoy.
 
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One easy trick I use on brisket is to separate the point from the flat. I put the flat on the top rack and the point on the bottom. The fat from the point bastes the flat, and the cooler temp (in my q) of the lower rack seems to help the cook as well. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I will be attempting my first brisket very soon. I like your idea of seperating and cooking in two parts, but you've confused me.

First you say flat on top and point on bottom, but then you talk about the point fat basting the flat. If the latter is true, the point would have to be on top.

Is that the case?
 
I've never tried using a can like that. For the MM, I just put on 10-15 lit briqs spread out on the top of the unlit charcoal.

Do you put the lit pieces into the can and then remove the can? Maybe you can explain this for me. Thanks in advance...
 
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yup.
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Steve, I would suggest that you follow that Midnight Brisket methodology of Chris's for your first run-through. I did ours that way for a long time before I ever foiled one... foil was a dirty 4-letter word in most BBQ circles until just the last few years or so. Foil is good for speeding up a cook. Foil is also used extensively in the big offset stickburners because the larger fire can cause a faster and dryer air velocity through the cooker, which can dry and/or oversmoke meats. It can be used for several purposes, but plenty of comps are won with no foil during the cooking process as well.

I would follow Chris's Midnight cook, using no foil. Some of us have shifted to fat side down, as you want your heaviest fat cap always facing the direction from which the heat comes (thank you, Jim Minion).

Suggestion 1: when you trim off that "hard" fat on the brisket, save it. When you set your brisket down on the rack in the WSM, tuck those saved fat chunks underneath the ends of your brisket where it comes near to the cooker walls. The heat in a WSM will billow out around the waterpan causing a higher heat at the edges that can adversely affect those ends. If your scrap fat takes the brunt of that heat, the brisket still cooks nicely without having the "bad" kind of burnt ends.

Suggestion 2: before you put the meat on the cooker, slice a wedge off of the flat going against the grain. That way, you know for SURE where to start slicing when it's done.

Suggestion 3: Pay attention to the meat temp, but not obsessively. You want to judge "done" by one of two things. First, if you stick a temp probe or a 2-tined meat fork sideways into the flat and it goes in like you're sticking the fork into butter, be happy - she's done and she'll be a good one. Second, if you poke at the brisket and it does a waba-waba kind of jiggle, that's another indication that the connective tissues have melted down and she'll be a good one. CAUTION - yes, when you remove your brisket from the cooker, you want to wrap it in a couple of layers of foil to let it rest for at least an hour. However, if your tenderness tests all show you that you're already nicely done, tender, and juicy when you take it off the cooker, set it on the foil but leave it unwrapped for at least ten minutes or so to cool just a bit. If it's a perfect brisket and you wrap it up tight and insulate it, it will keep on cooking PAST that perfect point and you'll wonder what happened to that lovely morsel of perfection when you unwrap it.

Do the Midnight cook a few times to familiarize yourself with the more traditional method and flavor, and then experiment with cooking in foil, fast cooks, etc. You won't be sorry.

As long as you're doing a midnight cook, might as well buy a couple of rolls of maple-flavored breakfast sausage, smear 'em with mustard, rub 'em, and throw 'em in the cooker for snacks and breakfast. Very easy, and very good.

Oh, and if you have a propane weed-burner, it's great for starting a MM cook. Just fill up your charcoal ring, hit it with the weedburner on top for about a minute, and away you go.
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And don't forget - we need pictures, dear heart!

Regards - Keri C, still smokin' on Tulsa Time
Hot Wire BBQ
 
Sorry, I just reread my post and I see that I screwed it up. I put the point on the top and the flat on the bottom
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I put the fat cap up on the point and down on the flat.

Cheers
 
WOW! Thanks everyone for all the great advice. I will try and take pics of the cook and let you all know how it turned out.
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Thanks again!
 

 

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