Having tough time grilling steaks on Performer


 

PaulFisher

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Hey all,

Just got a performer about a month ago, and I'm having trouble getting my steaks right. How do you all typically cook steaks? I got my temp up to 550 and seared for a couple minutes on both sides and then moved to indirect for the rest of the cook. Is this the correct way to typically cook steaks on charcoal? Is indirect at 500-550 a bad idea or should I lower the temp more before moving indirect?

Thanks
 
I do basically the same thing.

What do you feel is incorrect about your steaks?
Lid on?
Seasoned with?
I use the salt method - link
 
I just feel I can never get them the right way I like them, medium rare. I guess maybe I just need more practice than compared to my gasser.

I typically salt them about 30 minutes before putting them on. Sometimes I add some cracked pepper and maybe a little EVOO.
 
How thick are your steaks? I usually do about 4 min per side over direct for a 1 inch thick steak for med. rare, lid on. Comes out to what I think is a perfect med. rare anyways. Always let steaks get to room temp. before putting on grill and let rest 10 min. after taking off.
 
Sounds like you've got the right idea to me. I agree with the room temp advice.

I'll usually salt, pepper, and garlic powder, let come to room temp, oil, grill direct for a couple minutes each side then move to indirect till they feel right.

I know some people like to reverse sear steaks but I haven't tried it yet. Keep trying new things till you find something you're happy with. If you search on here there have been some pretty good discussions on grilling steaks.

Good luck!
 
pile your coals in one side to ~1-2" of the grate, leave the lid off so the fire rips, and then put them on & cover w/ the lid. I'm @ ~4550' elevation, don't know if that makes a difference, but I'm ~8 minutes per side for a medium rare. I just go direct the whole time.
 
Some may say it is cheating but I sometimes use a thermometer stuck in from the edge to check if they are done. Otherwise I agree with what has been said. Inhale also found it is easier to grill steaks in the 1 1/4 to 1 1/2 in thick range. Thin steaks seem to get done too quick and end up over cooked.
Keep trying and you will come to love your performer, I know I love mine.

Mike
 
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Some may say it is cheating but I sometimes use a thermometer stuck in from the edge to check if they are done. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
They can call it what they want, but I can garauntee everyone I serve gets their steak just like they like with my trusty digital.
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Why wouldn't you.
 
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Jeff R:
Why wouldn't you. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Because it is cheating Jeff, that's why!
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Paul - doesn't sound like you're doing anything really wrong, except maybe temp/time. Indirect probably needs to be lower temp, but if you're running thinner cuts, indirect may not be needed.

I do thick cuts, 6-8 min per side for med rare, with lid off. If I want to close the lid, I reduce the time a bit.

For my steak, I like the meat chilled - not frozen - then slap it on the hottest coals I can get - just until seared. Flip & repeat. Black & blue, baby. It squirts when I cut into it. Because of this, I often avoid the kettles & use a barrel grill with adjustable coal tray. This wa, I can get the coals within an inch or so of the grill.

Some say a flame-thrower might suit me better... but that would be cheating.
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take your thumb and press it against the side of you pointer finger the area that pops up behind the pointer finger knuckle almost at the crook poke it and that is medium rare
 
There is a bullet proof way to get your steaks just as you like em.

REVERSE SEAR!

Step 1
Cook the steak indirect at low temp. 225-250 is ideal. Pull it off when the innertemp hits its goal(or 2-3f below). Becouse it was cooked @ low temp the rest rise will be minimal. Now crank that grill upp or have a chimney of lit ready. Wait untill the inner temp starts to sink.(this step is all about cooking to perfection)

Now its done...But who eat a steak without a great sear right?

Step 2
By this time you should have a good fire going and a super hot grate. Add the steak untill you have the char you are aiming for. (the important part in step 2 is the outside)

Take it off and enjoy! I have cooked thin steaks that i know i would have to over cook to get that char.(or eat it raw)

Or after a few times you know when you can go from the indirect to the sear without resting.

But nowadays i still prefer the resting method...And then you know what the outcome will be like.(Everytime)
 
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by PaulFisher:
Hey all,

Just got a performer about a month ago, and I'm having trouble getting my steaks right. How do you all typically cook steaks? I got my temp up to 550 and seared for a couple minutes on both sides and then moved to indirect for the rest of the cook. Is this the correct way to typically cook steaks on charcoal? Is indirect at 500-550 a bad idea or should I lower the temp more before moving indirect?

Thanks </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Can you be more specific about your problem?
Are your steaks over/under cooked?
Are they lacking flavor?
Are they lacking grill marks?
Are they dry and chewy?
Do they taste like pickled fish?
 
I'm no expert on steaks but I made some this weekend that were awesome. I seared the steaks on the chimney after coals were hot to get a good crust and grill marks, then dumped the coals into buckets and finished the steak off indirect. I did about 1 min a side on the chimney and 5 min max indirect. Room temp with kosher salt and fresh ground pepper was all it needed.
 
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Greg M.:
Thermapen. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

There are many good methods to cooking a steak-but many factors have to be considered. Most importantly in my book is the thickness of the steak.
But I agree an instant read thermapen will help a great deal with figuring out doneness.
 
I cooked three ribeyes last night using the super salt method Russel talked about and linked in his post above. It's a bit more aggressive than I usually do... more salt, and more time.

I wish I had pics because the steaks did bleed a lot of water and after the hour and half, the kosher salt I used was nearly dissolved completely. I rinsed the steaks (but not quite good enough i think) and dried them.

I grilled them direct for a total of 8 minutes. I was bit lazy and impatient and had a good amount of left over coals from the night before and just dumped a new chim over those. I don't think the coals were quite hot enough... I should of let them burn up a nother 15 minutes... but beyond all that, I'd say the results were pretty good.

I'd say that the steak was just barely too salty for me... like I said though, i think I didn't rinse them well enough.

They were perfectly on the rare side of medium rare. The steak was very tender, but the texture was noticibly different. Much smoother almost prime rib like. You could definately see the result of the salt's work on the meat.

I'm not opposed to it, but I think after trying yet another method, that I still prefer just taking a quality steak at room temp S&P-ing it a few mintues ahead and tossing it on a raging hot fire for a few minutes is till the way to go. It just seems more like "real" steak to me.

You can't make a choice cut a prime cut. You can maybe get the tenderness from the salt breaking down the meat, but you loose the texture... the bit of the meat if you will. I'm pretty fortunate that my local SAMs puts out pretty nice higher end choice cuts. They cut them how I want and i'm usually not dissappointed at all. When I do get Prime steaks, it's definately a noticible difference... it's just different. You don't have large pockets or strips of fat, just tiny little dots of it all over. You just can't dupulicate that.

All in all though, the "super salt" technique came out pretty **** good. I enjoyed it and so did the family. To the OP, give this a shot one night. You may find it's the perfect way to prepare a steak. If not, keep searching and asking questions until you get it right for you.

I think Saturday night we're going to do some surf and turf. I have two nice 10oz Prime filets and some nice jumbo scallops. I've been staying true to just salt and pepper for a couple of months now, but I think I'm going to make a nice Kona espresso rub for the filets for a change. dusting the scallops with it will work too. We'll see how it goes.
 
Paul,

I find it easier to do the reverse sear. Cook indirect (I like low temps, 250-300), and even add a few wood chips for flavor. Time depends on temp and thickness of cut, but probably 15-30 minutes, depending on how done you like it.

Then lift the lid, let the coals get super hot, slick the meat with olive oil, and high heat sear it. Let rest, and you're done!

And DEFINITELY salt the meat 1-2 hours before cooking.

Oh, using one of those char baskets the Performer comes with works great for this, as it gets the coals up closer to the grate for the sear.
 
Wolgast I tried your method with about a 2" thick ribeye. Worked great. Steak was cooked perfectly for me. Grilled indirect around 250 for about 40 minutes until 128 internal. Took off rested and then seared. Think for a 1" steak would probably just cook direct but for a thick steak this was perfect.
 
One HUUUUUGE advantage of the reverse sear is that it is much quicker heating the fire up, than cooling it down. Just take the lid off, and within a couple minutes, you have a rip roaring fire, especially if you're using lump in the char-baskets. If you sear first, I presume you have to close all the vents and let your steak cook too hot until the temp gets down.
 

 

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