Couple more noob questions


 
1. Do you guys put your meat on right away or wait till wsm comes up to temp?

2. Depending how you answer #1 do you guys put your wood chunks on right away to get the smoke going then add meat immediately or let the wood burn a bit to get a cleaner blue smoke then add meat?
 
1) I add the meat right after I dump the lit onto the unlit and put the WSM together. Then I let it come up to temp.

2) Chunks get added at the beginning when I add the lit.
 
1. I wait until the initial white smoke thins out.
2. I bury the chunks in the unlit charcoal.
 
I'm fairly new with the WSM but I bury the wood under the coal, (It still smokes almost immediatelty), and put the meat on right after I add the lit coals to the bed.
 
I'm a new guy too. I usually bury wood in unlit. Dump lit on top. For PB, I put meat on immediately, chicken or ribs, I let the coals even out a bit and ensure I am reaching whatever my desired temp is.

Best think is to practice!!

Jim
 
Derrick, I'm the contrarian (?) I put the meat on when the temp hits about 210-220 and don't put wood in until I've got the meat on. Saves me from having to fight all that smoke when you put the wood on early
 
I get the coals started with a torch with only the lower section on and my stoker blower going. I wait until the coals are about right for a few lit coals when started in a chimney. I place the first wood chunk so that it will ignite during the first 30-45 minutes, put everything on and let her rip.
 
I have experimented with a few different methods. But I have settled on this - I let my WSM come up to temp (that temp varies depending on what I'm cooking). Then I put the meat on. Immediately after I put the meat on, I put the wood chunks in through the door. Sometimes I get a little white smoke for the first few minutes but it has never had any effect on the taste of my meat - beef, pork or poultry.
 
I wait till the cooker comes up to temp and the smoker has cleared a bit before I add the meat. Normally, this is about 20-30 min after I add my chimney coals. I mix my wood chucks in with the coals.
My biggest problem at start up is fussing with probes. All my patience and planning go down the tube if I have to fight them too long.
 
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by KevinJ:
1) I add the meat right after I dump the lit onto the unlit and put the WSM together. Then I let it come up to temp.

2) Chunks get added at the beginning when I add the lit. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Same here!
 
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by timothy:
Right away on both meat and wood.

Tim </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Ditto for me

If you are looking for that nice smoke ring. Understand that the smoke ring doesn't add flavor and doesn't mean you are a great cook. It's just pretty, and how cool are ribs that are pink to the bone because the ring has reached that far?

If that's what you are shooting for (a ring is present) then you want the meat out of the fridge and onto the fire for the maximum time until internal temps of the meat is under 140 or equal to 140 degrees. After that ring formation stops. That's the science I have from the experts on this forum and it's been substantiated by a LOT of cooks.

If you are one to want to leave your rub on for hours before the cook do that ahead. I don't anymore as I like the Kevin Kruger method of rubbing and prep as the fire is getting lit. A personal thing, but in the end after years of cooks I find no difference if I leave rub on for hours or if I take the meat out, salt, rub then on the fire. Just my experience and I am not refuting anyone's preference to do other methods. I've tried them, they all work.

But if you want a smoke ring you need the meat internal temp under 140 degrees for the maximum amount of time. It's a balance - don't put it on the fire if you have black smoke would be the rule as that's carbon heavy and no one wants that on their meat typically.

Set the meat out of the fridge on the counter until you dump the lit coals on the fire. I like to wait for the smoke to turn white. Most times that's instant, occasionally I have black smoke first but that is unusual. As long as you have white smoke or blue/white clear you can place the meat on the fire IMHO.

I have done all wood cooks and that's where the concern over black smoke comes from. My horizontal days. If you are doing wood cooks you want the wood down to coals as you start. Lots of folks don't realize that.

In most cases the cooks on the WSM hardly ever see black smoke unless you are overloading wood chunks. Because you are starting with charcoal and not "rendering" wood down to coals. Think campfire cooking.

I do bury wood chunks in the ring of fuel, not necessary but that's what I like to do. I like it to burn later during the cook not so much at the very start. Smoke does help ring formation but not after the meat temp hits 140. On top or buried works. What you want though is to start the fire slow. Minimum amount of lit briquettes or lump (I'm a lump bigot). Minimum because you want a minion start so you don't get the fire hot too quickly you want a slow ramp up to cooker temp target. Which keeps you below the 140 degrees for the maximum time.

Sorry for the long wind.
 

 

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